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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Jesus answered and said unto him, “If a man love Me, he will keep My words; and My Father will love him, and We will come unto him and make Our abode with him.
God in Jesus in us, as it says.
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We are not fully indwelled of them, bodily.
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Jesus answered and said unto him, “If a man love Me, he will keep My words; and My Father will love him, and We will come unto him and make Our abode with him.
God in Jesus in us, as it says.
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He is not in us as MAN. MEN cannot inhabit other MEN.
How is he still called MAN if the MAN BECAME GOD?
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Jesus answered and said unto him, “If a man love Me, he will keep My words; and My Father will love him, and We will come unto him and make Our abode with him.
God in Jesus in us, as it says.
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Sean, we know and understand the scripture.
But you have made statements via postings that Jesus couldn't have all of God fit inside Him. Prior to Jesus resurrection and getting a giant glorified body. So, with that reasoning, how does two omnipresent beings fit inside us today?
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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How can Christ be "IN YOU" when you have Him being a ginormous human container for the fullness of the Godhead?
Also, since Jesus was too small for the fullness of the Godhead to be in Him when He was a mere man, how are we mere men not be too small to have this same fullness of the Godhead in us when we have Christ in us?
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GOOD ONE!
If fullness of the godhead BODILY means his BODY is omnipresent (which is nonsense), then he cannot be inside us at the same time. If He has to be omnipresent to CONTAIN GOD, then we have to be omnipresent to contain HIM, let alone HIM AND GOD!!
Sean's whole argument was that Jesus has to be physically omnipresent for an omnipresent God to be inside him. But he trashes that whole concept when he claims Jesus is inside us.
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10-21-2017, 10:46 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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As man?
No.
AS SPIRIT.
THE MAN is mediator and high priest and THE MAN IS NOT ON EARTH. Can you understand what it means to be priest as a man and being inside us as GOD and not as man?
here is where your belief falls apart. You cannot see how AS A MAN He is mediator and that THE MAN is NOT ON EARTH as this mediator. And you cannot harmonize that with references that say Christ is in us as SPIRIT. You cannot comprehend that Christ has to be both God and man, in order for Hebrews 8:4 to be true while at the same time Col 1:27 is true.
Your doctrine disallows Heb 8:4 and makes it contradict Col 1:27. But if you accepted the truth that Jesus is GOD AND MAN, then you would know the MAN is what Heb 8:4 is talking about, and Col 1:27 is not talking about HIM AS MAN, which can only mean HE IS ALSO GOD.
And Sean, here's something else that proves your doctrine goes haywire and you cannot talk sensibly and maintain you belief in light of scripture: How is he called MAN if the MAN BECAME GOD? He would not longer BE MAN if HE BECAME GOD! |
Whoah, wait.
The last Adam is not a quickening spirit now?
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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He is not in us as MAN. MEN cannot inhabit other MEN.
How is he still called MAN if the MAN BECAME GOD?
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But Sean believes outer space giants can inhabit men?
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Originally Posted by TK Burk
How can Christ be "IN YOU" when you have Him being a ginormous human container for the fullness of the Godhead?
Also, since Jesus was too small for the fullness of the Godhead to be in Him when He was a mere man, how are we mere men not be too small to have this same fullness of the Godhead in us when we have Christ in us?
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We are not fully indwelled of the Godhead, bodily.
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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Whoah, wait.
The last Adam is not a quickening spirit now?
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10-21-2017, 10:48 PM
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
if there's any conscience at all left in the man, he has to be bothered by his own words now.
Lord, help us.
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Re: Seconds of Pre Embryonic Life of Jesus Christ?
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We are not fully indwelled of the Godhead, bodily.
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This was reserved for the son of God,.. 
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