(((EXCLUSIVE!))) Randy White Openly Mocks Standards,Admits drinking AND!!!.....

[Thad]

Originally Posted by triumphant1

I have learned not to do much buzzing over things that are not really my business....

There are extremes everywhere...even in the UPC...so i have learned to just get over it.

that was a neat little way of side stepping the issue

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by AtlantaBishop

WHAT??????????????

He is a wino on communion.

[Monkeyman]

Originally Posted by Steadfast

I'm doing fine, actually. Thanks for the concern.

Mine was a general statement of a greater scope than yourself. I get tired of the constant war against those who choose to hold righteousness. Yes, most of that crowd has an agenda as some posts on this thread reveal.

I was a bouncer in my Grandfather's bar the night I got the Holy Ghost. I know about drinking. I haven't done it in 28 years. NO THANKS ON YOUR OFFER. Be careful about driving that way, though, I don't want you killing one of my children who now drive.

Note to self...never EVER tick this dude off!!!

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Thad

what part ?

Thad...you are just jealous because you have always wanted to go in front of your church and show your tan off and have all those women cheering you on. You know it too!!!! oloroid

[berkeley]

Originally Posted by SoCaliUPC

Thad...you are just jealous because you have always wanted to go in front of your church and show your tan off and have all those women cheering you on. You know it too!!!! oloroid

[mizpeh]

Originally Posted by Thad

that was not fermitted drink for getting drunk

Why would you say that? Why the negative connotation in these verses?

Luke 7:33 For John the Baptist came neither eating bread nor drinking wine; and ye say, He hath a devil.
34 The Son of man is come eating and drinking; and ye say, Behold a gluttonous man, and a winebibber, a friend of publicans and sinners!

[Steve Epley]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

He is a wino on communion.

Yep.

[Rhoni]

Originally Posted by Thad

*** A MUST READ ****

recently I know someone who recently visited Without wall church.

HERE IS WHAT TOOK PLACE ! !
While Randy was Preaching, he was talking about legalistic Traditional churches. He then started talking about so -called "Holiness churches" that don't allow this and that (makeup, jewelry etc). He then said " I want all the women here that are wearing Pants to stand up" he then Proceeded to tell them, " now in those churches ALL of you would be sent to hell none of you would be saved". the audience woooed and awed, laughed, and shook their heads in disbelief

He told them, Nobody is Perfect, I'm not perfect you're not perfect, and yes, I have a drink once in a while ! ! ! wow!!!!!!

*****NOW CHECK THIS OUT!!!!******
in the sermon, he bragged about his summer Tan. he asked " want me to show you ??? He then pretended to untie his tie and unbutton his shirt etc. while the audience cheered him on to continue on !!!!!!




YOUR OPINIONS PLEASE THANKS A BUNCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I personally don't believe he said it...I'd have to hear it in person. He would not say such a thing.

[Rhoni]

Besides...I've heard 'standards' belittled and joked about from our own pulpits...and many of our churches serve wine for communion...so I guess those that do drink a bit themselves!

[Praxeas]

The Lobby and Food Court, with its dynamic lighting and decorative features, will create a warm atmosphere in which the congregation can gather before and after each service. This new facility will include a bookstore, numerous resource centers, meeting rooms, and information centers conveniently located throughout the lobby area.

Describing his vision for the church's new home, Osteen explains: "We intend to share this great resource and make Lakewood Church Central a gathering point for the entire city of Houston. The ice rink and basketball facilities will remain open for families and city leagues. There will be concerts, sporting events, family conferences, conventions, business workshops, personal growth seminars and much more -and all of these opportunities will bring in people from all walks of life. We're going to touch untold thousands of lives in this place." After it opens in July, he predicts weekend attendance will rocket to 100,000. Says Osteen: "Other churches have not kept up, and they lose people by not changing with the times." (Emphasis Ours)

“On June 20, 2005, Osteen sat for an interview with Larry King on CNN’s The Larry King Show. King introduced Osteen as “evangelism’s hottest rising star, pastor for the biggest congregation in the United States.” And what does he preach? Osteen said he doesn’t get into controversial subjects like sin and judgment. False religions such as Islam, Hinduism, and Judaism don’t concern him. He doesn’t really know who’s going to hell and who isn’t”

Lakewood celebrates "the king", Elvis Presley:

From Ingrid Schlueter of sliceoflaodicea.com who

• “personally talked with one Elvis impersonator in Houston who has performed numerous times at Joel Osteen's Lakewood Church. .... It is somehow a fitting metaphor for these churches that the false god of their choice is a bloated, drug-infested rock star who died a lonely, needless and tragic death on the floor of his own bathroom.”

Also

“It seems Elvis impersonators are in big demand there as he is performing on the 22nd of October, this Saturday, for a nurses get together at the church. He said that it doesn't matter what kind of church he does Elvis at, it all "glorifies the Lord". He has 20 different outfits, one of which has 1,000 pieces of cut Austrian crystal and made by the same guy who made Elvis's suit of the same type. He said he wears a special suit for "Heartbreak Hotel" in honor of Elvis' first gold record. I haven't quite recovered from the conversation. Ralph stressed that he doesn't impersonate Elvis, because nobody can. "I pay tribute to him," he said. "The kids really eat it up," he added.”
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