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Old 06-11-2007, 10:04 AM
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Pastor Cleans Off Platform

This is a testimony from a young lady in our church who is a praise singer. Also, I have been the guitar player in this church for 10 years. We are part of the leadership of our church and have no problem with what our pastor did and are behind him 100%. We also have a very good music program in our church and have always been known for our music more than anything else.

Funny thing, the only people who find this offensive are the same people who caused tons of trouble for our former pastor.



Sunday, June 10, 2007

Music-less Revival

For whatever reasons that are not important, my pastor has decided to clear off the platform. In our main services, we have no live music. All our music is coming from CDs, and everyone is invited to have worship time in the altar.

For typical APs, it sounds bizarre, and many would question the action. However, I can honestly say we had 2 of the greatest services this weekend as a result. We haven't gotten past worship service. He invited us down to the altar, we all started praying and the next thing you know people we've NEVER seen before are getting the Holy Ghost! It's been phenomenal. I saw people who haven't really prayed in years, fall to their knees in the presence of God.

I know that a lot of people are apprehensive about the change, but honestly, I think it's for the best. It's nothing permanent of course, but it's given a chance for some who hide behind their instruments to be an active part in worship. Some people won't accept it, and refuse to confirm to the new arrangement, but they are only hurting themselves.

Revival is sweeping through our church. It may be unorthodox and offensive to some. That's how I know it's God!
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:07 AM
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This is a testimony from a young lady in our church who is a praise singer. Also, I have been the guitar player in this church for 10 years. We are part of the leadership of our church and have no problem with what our pastor did and are behind him 100%. We also have a very good music program in our church and have always been known for our music more than anything else.

Funny thing, the only people who find this offensive are the same people who caused tons of trouble for our former pastor.



Sunday, June 10, 2007

Music-less Revival

For whatever reasons that are not important, my pastor has decided to clear off the platform. In our main services, we have no live music. All our music is coming from CDs, and everyone is invited to have worship time in the altar.

For typical APs, it sounds bizarre, and many would question the action. However, I can honestly say we had 2 of the greatest services this weekend as a result. We haven't gotten past worship service. He invited us down to the altar, we all started praying and the next thing you know people we've NEVER seen before are getting the Holy Ghost! It's been phenomenal. I saw people who haven't really prayed in years, fall to their knees in the presence of God.

I know that a lot of people are apprehensive about the change, but honestly, I think it's for the best. It's nothing permanent of course, but it's given a chance for some who hide behind their instruments to be an active part in worship. Some people won't accept it, and refuse to confirm to the new arrangement, but they are only hurting themselves.

Revival is sweeping through our church. It may be unorthodox and offensive to some. That's how I know it's God!
This cracked me up a bit....

but I Think That's Great!
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Old 06-11-2007, 10:09 AM
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Hey, whatever it takes! If my pastor decided to do this, he would. His thing is, "The only thing constant at Love and Truth Church is change." Alot of folks don't like it, but he follows the leading of God.

I was also in a conference at a large COG church in Mobile, AL a couple of years and they did all the music by CDs. They had a large choir and the music pastor led the praise and worship to the CDs. There was a very powerful presence of God in the place. It's nice to know He's not restricted to our box!
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This cracked me up a bit....

but I Think That's Great!
Basically what is happening is that the people in charge of music have been causing a lot of problems for the pastor and the former. They have been bluffing for years to get their way or walk off the platform. Our new pastor just called their bluff. Kicked them all off.

I would have never guessed in a million years that we would have had church by CD.
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Hey, whatever it takes! If my pastor decided to do this, he would. His thing is, "The only thing constant at Love and Truth Church is change." Alot of folks don't like it, but he follows the leading of God.

I was also in a conference at a large COG church in Mobile, AL a couple of years and they did all the music by CDs. They had a large choir and the music pastor led the praise and worship to the CDs. There was a very powerful presence of God in the place. It's nice to know He's not restricted to our box!
The uniqueness of Pentecost is that every church is different and every pastor is different...breaking it down even further, every service is different, and the reason is because every need is different.

Each pastor should follow the leading of His hand however he deems it proper to do so...if it works for them, wonderful!! Praise God!!
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I prefer live music, but if the musician and singers attitudes are bad maybe canned music is better.
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The uniqueness of Pentecost is that every church is different and every pastor is different...breaking it down even further, every service is different, and the reason is because every need is different.

Each pastor should follow the leading of His hand however he deems it proper to do so...if it works for them, wonderful!! Praise God!!
Well said, Sis!
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I have sang on the platform for over 20 years. Choir leader, praise team leader, I lead the music etc.

If my pastor said that he was going to do that... I would be blown away (pleasantly) and would be behind him 100%.

I'm up there. I feel the constant pull for more, more, more.

Perform, perform, perform....

I think that this would be a good thing. No... a very good thing... no.. a God thing.


Below is the song Heart Of Worship, the lyrics and the story behind the song.

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The Lyrics


When the music fades and all is stripped away
And I simply come
Longing just to bring something that's of worth
That will bless Your heart

I'll bring You more than a song
For a song in itself
Is not what You have required
You search much deeper within
Through the way things appear
You're looking into my heart

I'm coming back to the heart of worship
And it's all about You
All about You, Jesus
I'm sorry, Lord, for the things I've made it
When it's all about You
All about You, Jesus

King of endless worth, no one could express
How much You deserve
Though I'm weak and poor, all I have is Yours
Every single breath

The Story Behind The Song


Check the liner notes of almost any modern worship recording, and the name Matt Redman is likely to be among the songwriting credits. Artists and assemblies regularly perform “Let My Words Be Few” (Phillips, Craig & Dean), “Better Is One Day” (Rebecca St. James, Petra), and perhaps most of all, “The Heart of Worship” (Michael W. Smith, Sonic Flood, Passion), a beautifully simple, acoustic confessional ballad. Still, as prolific as these works make him, he says the story behind “The Heart of Worship” in particular is a personal reminder that, “I’m just a little songwriter—and a pretty foolish one at that!”

The song dates back to the late 1990s, born from a period of apathy within Matt’s home church, Soul Survivor, in Watford, England. Despite the country’s overall contribution to the current worship revival, Redman’s congregation was struggling to find meaning in its musical outpouring at the time.

“There was a dynamic missing, so the pastor did a pretty brave thing,” he recalls. “He decided to get rid of the sound system and band for a season, and we gathered together with just our voices. His point was that we’d lost our way in worship, and the way to get back to the heart would be to strip everything away.”

Reminding his church family to be producers in worship, not just consumers, the pastor, Mike Pilavachi, asked, “When you come through the doors on a Sunday, what are you bringing as your offering to God?”

Matt says the question initially led to some embarrassing silence, but eventually people broke into a cappella songs and heartfelt prayers, encountering God in a fresh way.

“Before long, we reintroduced the musicians and sound system, as we’d gained a new perspective that worship is all about Jesus, and He commands a response in the depths of our souls no matter what the circumstance and setting. ‘The Heart of Worship’ simply describes what occurred.”

When the music fades, all is stripped away, and I simply come / Longing just to bring something that’s of worth that will bless your heart… / I’m coming back to the heart of worship, and it’s all about You, Jesus

Redman remembers writing the song quickly in his bedroom soon after the church’s journey together, with no grand intentions, by any means, for it to become an international anthem. He viewed the words simply as his personal, subjective response to what he was learning about worship.

But when Matt shared “The Heart of Worship” with Pilavachi, the pastor suggested making a few small adjustments to the lyrics so any member of the church could relate to it as well.

Amazed by how God has since taken the song around the world for His purposes, the songwriter smiles in regard to his own lack of foresight. “It nearly didn’t go any further than my bedroom. But I love that…”

The trademark tune soon became the title track for Matt Redman’s 1999 album, The Heart of Worship. The recording process was consistent with the artist’s sensitive approach to being in the studio.

“We decided to not get all complicated, and just let the song ‘breathe.’ We’re always trying to create more of a church atmosphere in the studio rather than just a technical musical gathering. Something happens when the people of God gather together and play out the praises of God in the presence of God. Hopefully something of that passion and purpose transcends beyond that studio room onto the recordings themselves.”

Following Matt’s original release, which featured a guest vocal appearance by Martin Smith, lead singer of Delirious, “The Heart of Worship” became a new standard of the modern worship music movement, sung by fellow artists, choirs, and church families alike. Among the ever-rising number of reinterpretations, Redman is especially fond of Michael W. Smith’s from his 2001 classic, Worship.

“I honestly like them all,” he admits. “It’s a great encouragement when people take the songs and run with them. Perhaps my favorite is Michael’s— maybe because it’s a live version and therefore really captures and conveys the heart of the song’s theme.”

Even more encouraging, he says, is when other pastors get in touch to let Matt know how God has used the song to take their congregations through a situation similar to the one his church experienced.

As teachable as “The Heart of Worship” has become, Matt Redman continues to learn about true worship and will journey further into that heart in summer 2004 with a new album, Facedown.

“It’s such a biblical posture in worship that speaks of reverence. If you look through the Bible, there’s a whole host of people who faced up to the glory of God and found themselves facedown in worship. So the album weaves through a theme of reverence, wonder, and mystery in worship, things I feel we really need to grasp more of in our worship expressions. I know that I do!”
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Basically what is happening is that the people in charge of music have been causing a lot of problems for the pastor and the former. They have been bluffing for years to get their way or walk off the platform. Our new pastor just called their bluff. Kicked them all off.

I would have never guessed in a million years that we would have had church by CD.
That is an excellent reason to do this but the problem doesn't have to be with the musicians/singers either.

The problem can be just a church wide departure from what it is all about.
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Alot of times when we have a lengthy altar service, Pastor will have the sound men put on a CD and tell the musicians to come down so they can pray and have their own touch by the power of God too.
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