Uuh Ooh!!! Is Paula White's Ministry Unraveling??? Read This!!!

Originally Posted by ChTatum

What CC1 said is truth, whether he chooses to elaborate or not. While in a discussion the other day, the subject of "worldliness" came up, and as the conversation continued it was apparent the definition of "worldliness" was subject to the teachings experienced, not a Biblical definition.

I am a bit confused here. You do not think that the Bible defines worldliness? Is that what you are saying?

[CC1]

Originally Posted by South of I 90

CC1, would you care to elaborate on this?

I have been in situations where a UPC friend of relative makes a big deal about how someone looks, etc when I did not even notice.

I am just saying that if you are looking to be offended I can guarantee you will be.

This hyper sensitivity extends to many aspects of life. Many OP's are world wise but many are not.

Some have lives that are so wrapped around church that they have little social interaction in the community,etc and when are faced with situations where people do not dress like they approve of or act in a way they approve of then they are deeply offended and upset.

For example if I go to a Titans NFL game I go for the football. I don't drink beer,etc but enjoy myself immensly. Out of the scores of games I have gone to I can count on one hand the number of times I have heard or seen anybody do anything inappropriate.

However on the rare occasion it does happen I consider the source and it just rolls right past me. I know some folks who if they heard a curse word yelled out would just be shocked, upset, and all out of sorts.

That OP would say that him or her not going to a Titans game is the solution. I would say that this is not the seperation we should be concerned about. Our christian values should exhibit themselves at sporting events, entertainment events, etc just as they do in every other aspect of our life. That is being a witness.

[ChTatum]

Originally Posted by NobodyImportant

I am a bit confused here. You do not think that the Bible defines worldliness? Is that what you are saying?

Yes, I do think the Bible does. But some have taken it upon themselves to expound, dontcha think?

[ManOfWord]

Originally Posted by CC1

I have been in situations where a UPC friend of relative makes a big deal about how someone looks, etc when I did not even notice.

I am just saying that if you are looking to be offended I can guarantee you will be.

This hyper sensitivity extends to many aspects of life. Many OP's are world wise but many are not.

Some have lives that are so wrapped around church that they have little social interaction in the community,etc and when are faced with situations where people do not dress like they approve of or act in a way they approve of then they are deeply offended and upset.

For example if I go to a Titans NFL game I go for the football. I don't drink beer,etc but enjoy myself immensly. Out of the scores of games I have gone to I can count on one hand the number of times I have heard or seen anybody do anything inappropriate.

However on the rare occasion it does happen I consider the source and it just rolls right past me. I know some folks who if they heard a curse word yelled out would just be shocked, upset, and all out of sorts.

That OP would say that him or her not going to a Titans game is the solution. I would say that this is not the seperation we should be concerned about. Our christian values should exhibit themselves at sporting events, entertainment events, etc just as they do in every other aspect of our life. That is being a witness.

Excellently said!!! My sentiments exactly!!!

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by CC1

I have been in situations where a UPC friend of relative makes a big deal about how someone looks, etc when I did not even notice.

I am just saying that if you are looking to be offended I can guarantee you will be.

This hyper sensitivity extends to many aspects of life. Many OP's are world wise but many are not.

Some have lives that are so wrapped around church that they have little social interaction in the community,etc and when are faced with situations where people do not dress like they approve of or act in a way they approve of then they are deeply offended and upset.

For example if I go to a Titans NFL game I go for the football. I don't drink beer,etc but enjoy myself immensly. Out of the scores of games I have gone to I can count on one hand the number of times I have heard or seen anybody do anything inappropriate.

However on the rare occasion it does happen I consider the source and it just rolls right past me. I know some folks who if they heard a curse word yelled out would just be shocked, upset, and all out of sorts.

That OP would say that him or her not going to a Titans game is the solution. I would say that this is not the seperation we should be concerned about. Our christian values should exhibit themselves at sporting events, entertainment events, etc just as they do in every other aspect of our life. That is being a witness.

Very good and you are right.

Another (new one) soccer mom praying with Kristin in our living room tonight. Said, "I feel God was telling me to get to know you when I saw you at soccer practice, when I saw saw you on TV I knew God was speaking to me.

Imagine God using Soccer and TV to speak to people...

[Sherri]

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Very good and you are right.

Another (new one) soccer mom praying with Kristin in our living room tonight. Said, "I feel God was telling me to get to know you when I saw you at soccer practice, when I saw saw you on TV I knew God was speaking to me.

Imagine God using Soccer and TV to speak to people...

UNBELIEVABLE!!!

[SoCaliUPC]

Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

Very good and you are right.

Another (new one) soccer mom praying with Kristin in our living room tonight. Said, "I feel God was telling me to get to know you when I saw you at soccer practice, when I saw saw you on TV I knew God was speaking to me.

Imagine God using Soccer and TV to speak to people...

Impossible!!!

["GL"]

We've not yet won a fellow soccer parent, but we hope to this year.

[Hoovie]

Originally Posted by "GL"

We've not yet won a fellow soccer parent, but we hope to this year.

It can be done. Or rather, I should say God can do it!

[SecretWarrior]

LETTER FROM FORMER MEMBER OR WORKER !

Today the Trib - soon 20/20..........

It is remarkable that these people have managed to stay out of the public eye, as passionately as they have pursued it. What I mean is that they have avoided the revelation of the truth about them and their history, while landing in the spotlight over and over and on such a large scale.

I wonder why those who really know, who remember the paneling on the walls of his 6x8 foot office with the window unit air conditioner when he was a youth pastor after first landing in Tampa, preying on the kids whose parents had some cash. She was teaching Algebra to high school boys, scantily clad in leopard and lace, working out at Shapes after work, not scrubbing toilets for money like her autobiography claims. They lived in a comfortable home, paid for and furnished by the first set of gullible groupies.

They showed up in a beat up Ford tempo with a burnt up clutch and a 5x8 UHaul - she had a child that was 4 or 5 - hear he may be hanging with the boys at Juliard these days - he didn’t belong to Randy, but they lied about that to everyone.

He left 3 young children behind with his first wife and family to escape the truth about their adulterous affair that eventually led to thier marriage.

Paula told her very young son refer to his biological father by his first name in public, he obeyed, not understanding this deception at 4.

They blew out on their contract at the church where they were employed in Tampa, found some humble people with some money and moved 12 metal chairs on top of carpet that the first 15 parishoners laid in a store front on Gandy. That is how it began.......a few years and many broken hearts and relatioships later, the congregation bought her first mercedes for pastor appreciation day. It has been crazy ever since.

Don’t know about this trailer in Mississippi she talks about. When confided in by her I was told that her step father was a high ranking official at the pentagon before committing suicide. She was a competitive gymnast and popular in high school - and lived a priviledged life. Her mother who the last I knew had a serious drinking problem, is virtually a phantom now.

The mention of “Mother Ruth” in the paper is dispicable. That woman handed Paula her silver the night her elderly husband died, never missed a service in any of their four sanctuaries. They used her and have left her all alone and broke - that is enough for Paula to be humbled for.

There have literally been hundreds of faithful friends and servants, come into their lives, only to be used, abused and discarded, excommunicated. There were so many I lost count....B and J, V and I, B, LB, D and S S., J and R, H and E, ......C and S. T. WHAT are you still doing with these people?

In their wake have been the weak and poor, the misguided and the needy.

The saddest part of all is that I remember like it was yesterday the first pink box truck. Randy and Paula riding into the projects and passing out serial at sidewalk Sunday school. They would visit your home when your mother was sick, and open their doors to vulnerable children seeking truth.

I wonder now, looking at the radically remade plastic surgery aaddicted, St John, diamond, rolex dripping arrogant celebrity that SHE has become as a result of purely SELF promotion and wonder....How did this happen??

Every entry I read attacks Randy, who comes from good stock, precious faithful God fearing parents and very forgiving children - he is at heart probably a good and decent human - certainly more real than she.

She is the epitomy of superficiality, and almost positively engaged in yet another adulterous home-wrecking affair - (yee-haw) - look to the west and you will find what is on the Horizon.

I hear these fine and good Aafrican Americans who populate their congregation and share residency with me in Tampa, and they seem to admire, condone, and respect this woman who once told me that she was “thrilled to get out of D.C......nothin’ but N------ there”!!!!!! and I would swear that on a stack of Bibles. I hear her preaching with the dialect of a southern black and want to throw up, literally. She is a liar and a hypocrit and a phony and a fraud. Let her son bring home an African American boy or girl and see what she does......her step children know, she already fought that fight once and spoke of it as a “disgrace to their family” - paralleled only by her willingness to betray the Whites and help land Randy’s favorite Uncle in prison.......

I understand she is entirely disengaged from the suffering of Randy’s daughter - Why he pretends she cares is beyond me -

Randy, I believe in you and the calling on your life, from you rmermaid tatoo, to your freaky porcelain veneers, you come from good and Godly people - just get back there - let her have her celebrity, the Kingdom needs you.

Paula, if you ever knew Jesus at all - get on your knees and beg Him for forgiveness, he is the only one that can restore you now.