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Old 12-27-2015, 11:52 AM
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Interesting.

"Our faith is based on the set of doctrines believed in and practiced by the Apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ, as found in the Holy Scriptures. These include such beliefs and doctrines as: the infallibility of the Bible; the Oneness of God, namely that Yahweh (Jehovah) God of the Old Testament is Jesus Christ of the New Testament; water baptism by immersion in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ; the reception of the Holy Ghost by every believer with the initial sign of speaking in tongues as the Spirit gives utterance (Acts 2:4); the living of holy life; the rapture of the church; and the second coming of the Lord Jesus Christ."

This is the doctrinal template I've seen on a majority of UPC churches.
I know, which is why I didn't want to waste my time or theirs by even visiting.

However, I spoke with the Pastor here and we are on the same page regarding salvation, which is MONUMENTAL to me!
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Old 12-27-2015, 07:59 PM
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Bishop Houghton os a good man. His son died a couple of years ago which was a shock to many people. (Young man in his prime with great expectations for the future.)

Personally I am a little skeptical of the Bishop's statement to you. Unless he has really changed his doctrine, he may have either not been really listening to you or not really wanting to get into said discussion at the moment. COOLJC has always been an organization that taught the necessity of receiving the Holy Ghost to be saved......very interesting indeed!
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Old 12-27-2015, 11:15 PM
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Bishop Houghton os a good man. His son died a couple of years ago which was a shock to many people. (Young man in his prime with great expectations for the future.)

Personally I am a little skeptical of the Bishop's statement to you. Unless he has really changed his doctrine, he may have either not been really listening to you or not really wanting to get into said discussion at the moment. COOLJC has always been an organization that taught the necessity of receiving the Holy Ghost to be saved......very interesting indeed!
This church is not affiliated with COOLJC now, but he was ordained with COOLJC many years ago. The literature they actually pass out in the church does not reflect a traditional Oneness Pentecostal view of salvation.

I am convinced he understood my question and the implications and answered it honestly IAW scriptures.
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Glad to hear they practice the headcovering!
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If your track record holds true you will be happy at this church for approximately one month! LOL
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but hopefully not that long
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Glad to hear they practice the headcovering!
We do too according to 1Cor. 11:15.
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If your track record holds true you will be happy at this church for approximately one month! LOL
LOL!
This is funny, but not true.
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but hopefully not that long

Why?
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We do too according to 1Cor. 11:15.
Not all of the women had hats or prayer cloths, but more than half did.
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