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Old 06-04-2007, 12:42 PM
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I have noticed that when an Apostolic woman backslides, one of the first things she usually does is cut her hair.
Or when they get out from under the erroneous teaching that it is a sin to cut their hair.
Some only go back so far in their reasoning until they come to a border where if they go back further they will break their tradition. So it stands to reason that if some consider backsliding to involve cutting the hair, the real question is whether or not the bible said cutting hair was wrong. The chapter makes no sense if the issue is uncut hair. Period. We all argued before as to whether or not the issue is uncut hair. But it is a PERFECTLY WISE statement to ask whether or not that is what the chapter is speaking about to begin with.

One may have backslidden, and sinned in many areas as a result, but if the bible is not against cutting the hair anyway, then cutting the hair was not one of the sins committed by the backslider.

Mormons would say you've backslidden if you've left the Mormon church and started believing Jesus is the only God who exists. But just because that is their opinion, does it make them right?
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Did somebody say chicken!
Yes, as in you're to chicken to give up this tradition ... as you have w/ other holiness positions ... because it means "giving up" your authority!!!!
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Shame is which means "vile, disgusting, filthy, etc." sounds like sin to me.
Vomit is all the things you describe, but is vomit a sin?

It's not heaven or hell, bro Epley.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:51 PM
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That's why ... if theologians can't agree ... I think it's simply fishing to have one's paradigm to fit the Word ....

There isn't enough here to formulate an Angelic Hair or Uncut Hair doctrine ... me thinks that those that seek to interpret "because of the angels" do so to advance their erroneous agenda
I find it funny that when people change their beliefs when being saved, we don't consider them to be in rebellion or deception concerning their prior beliefs and teachings, but instead, we are showing them 'truth'. It's when they quit believing what we consider 'truth' that they are then in rebellion or deception.
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Old 06-04-2007, 12:54 PM
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Angels are not only dependant on the hair, they also breathe now... wow!

The things you learn in church!
They were also aware of the intent of her heart!
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You are a smart woman using a chicken metaphor. That will get the preachers attention!!!
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WAIT!

Eating chicken on Tuesdays is NOT a sin?????????????


i've been lied to!
Still can't eat it, cause in doing so, you'd be in rebellion or deception for allowing me to convince you that your belief isn't real!
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I find it funny that when people change their beliefs when being saved, we don't consider them to be in rebellion or deception concerning their prior beliefs and teachings, but instead, we are showing them 'truth'. It's when they quit believing what we consider 'truth' that they are then in rebellion or deception.
The issue here is usurping unbiblical authority .... It's what I call the Ministry of Caiphas ... agree w/ me or else ....
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Outward signs like baptism-communion-annointing with oil-washing feet?
Those are not outward signs. I can't tell if someone has been baptised, received communion, ever been anointed with oil (which isn't a requirement for healing), or ever washed feet just by looking at them.

I also don't see a command given for any of the above other than baptism where it's also asserted that if one doesn't do it, they cannot be saved.
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Shame is which means "vile, disgusting, filthy, etc." sounds like sin to me.
Shame is what we bring on ourselves. Having shame is not a sin, and the definitions you have above aren't the only ones for 'shame'.

And the shame comes in a woman having her head shorn or shaven, not in having her hair cut.
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