"For This Cause" A Discussion About Angelic Hair

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I don't believe this is the intent of most women who cut their hair.

A woman who has been taught against cutting her hair generally does it out of rebellion.

But most women just do it for style or convenience otherwise.

I have noticed that when an Apostolic woman backslides, one of the first things she usually does is cut her hair.

But is that rebellion?

It may be that she no longer identifies with Apostolic doctrine. It may have nothing to do with her relationship with her hubby. The million dollar question is does her intent matter? Is 1 Corinthians 11 a biblical imperative, or merely a suggestion?

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by ILG

There is nothing wrong with pointing out error in what is being taught, even if someone believes in the "hair doctrine". Many who believe in the hair doctrine do not believe in special protection which IS being taught.

I believe special protection is afforded through obedience.

There are a lot things that require obedience; hair is just one.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

But is that rebellion?

It may be that she no longer identifies with Apostolic doctrine. It may have nothing to do with her relationship with her hubby. The million dollar question is does her intent matter? Is 1 Corinthians 11 a biblical imperative, or merely a suggestion?

Very good point, PP. It is not necessarily rebellion, but interpreted as such by some.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I believe special protection is afforded through obedience.

There are a lot things that require obedience; hair is just one.

Totally agree.

Obedience always brings reward.

Disobedience brings spiritual separation and a loss of protection.

[Nahum]

Originally Posted by ILG

Very good point, PP. It is not necessarily rebellion, but interpreted as such by some.

It may not be rebellion with intent.

However, it is a trespass. Trespass equates to disobedience. Disobedience is rebellion.

Tough issue.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

But is that rebellion?

It may be that she no longer identifies with Apostolic doctrine. It may have nothing to do with her relationship with her hubby. The million dollar question is does her intent matter? Is 1 Corinthians 11 a biblical imperative, or merely a suggestion?

I said "generally."

If she has once believed it and no longer does, that would be deception, which often has its roots in rebellion or offense.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

It may not be rebellion with intent.

However, it is a trespass. Trespass equates to disobedience. Disobedience is rebellion.

Tough issue.

Since I don't believe the Bible teaches uncut hair, I don't think it is even a trespass.

[Coonskinner]

Originally Posted by ILG

Very good point, PP. It is not necessarily rebellion, but interpreted as such by some.

If the woman has once belived it and then cuts her hair, it is one of two things: rebellion or deception.

Rebellion if she still believes but cuts it anyway, and deception if she has convinced herself or allowed others to convince her it is no longer truth.

[Steve Epley]

There are four major interpetations of this verse I have heard among Apostolic teachers and here they are:
1. it means it is because the angels of the Lord surround us daily and protect us so out of honor to them it is worn.
2. it identifies with the evil angels that fell in rebellion thus making a negative statement.
3. the angels here are the ministry thus worn showing submission to the ministry.
4. the angels covered the mercy seat and are seen as guardians of God's glory thus it is worn to cover man's glory(the woman) thus not seen as to interpose the glory of man into the presence of God where the angels are the guardians.

[ILG]

Originally Posted by Coonskinner

I said "generally."

If she has once believed it and no longer does, that would be deception, which often has its roots in rebellion or offense.

Or, those who believe it and teach it to begin with are decieved and when someone does no longer believe it they are delivered from deception.