Why men hate church

[Esaias]

Well, the bible teaches that effeminate men won't inherit the kingdom.

[The Lemon]

Side note here - Seems to me I have heard this rant about "Pure Laziness" before - probably more then once I recall.

I do not doubt that there are grown men who are just immature kids who never grew up and I also have no doubt that there are lazy men in churches all over the U.S. of A.

Having said that - not all men (and most likely VERY few) that go to church are "lazy" - in fact, I would suspect that a great deal of men who are faithful to service are not in fact lazy people.

I know many who work long hours, some work more then one job. they provide for their homes - and yes, when the weekend comes, they are tired - who wouldn't be! The level of involvement in anything outside of the home and work should not be used as some sort of measuring stick to qualify those with a good work ethic versus the plain old lazy. This is absurd.

I believe we all need to pray and find our part in the work of God - believe me - but that does not mean that if person A is involved in Sunday School, teached 5-Bible studies a week, and never misses Church is somehow elevated over person B who for many reasons, including work schedules, can't be as involved with several funtions of the Church.

This is where the comparing ourselves is so unwise, and down right foolish. Go tell the next farmer or doctor, or nurse that they are clearly lazy because they don't grace the pew every Sunday, or that they don't "do enough" for the kingdom or souls.

There is a systemic problem with westernized church that goes far beyond the points of this article, believe me..

[houston]

Originally Posted by Esaias

Well, the bible teaches that effeminate men won't inherit the kingdom.

but men walking in the flesh will...

got it

[n david]

Originally Posted by The Lemon

Side note here - Seems to me I have heard this rant about "Pure Laziness" before - probably more then once I recall.

I do not doubt that there are grown men who are just immature kids who never grew up and I also have no doubt that there are lazy men in churches all over the U.S. of A.

Having said that - not all men (and most likely VERY few) that go to church are "lazy" - in fact, I would suspect that a great deal of men who are faithful to service are not in fact lazy people.

You mentioned my wording of "pure laziness," but completely butcher and misrepresent what I said. Look below, I wrote about 3 reasons for the lack of men at church.

Originally Posted by n david

IMO, the big 3 reasons I see for lack of men at church:
1) Pure laziness. They work during the week and want to sit and watch football on Sundays

I said nothing about involvement. That's a completely different topic, and for that I wouldn't call them lazy, nor would I compare them to others more involved. I would, however, look at what their priorities are. Some claim to be unable to be involved in any ministry, yet find time to take kids to soccer, baseball, football, gymnastics, etc; and sit around weekends watching sports or going on recreational activities.

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by houston

but men walking in the flesh will...

got it

I seriously doubt you 'got it'.

[Real Realism]

Originally Posted by The Lemon

I believe we all need to pray and find our part in the work of God - believe me - but that does not mean that if person A is involved in Sunday School, teached 5-Bible studies a week, and never misses Church is somehow elevated over person B who for many reasons, including work schedules, can't be as involved with several funtions of the Church.

This is where the comparing ourselves is so unwise, and down right foolish. Go tell the next farmer or doctor, or nurse that they are clearly lazy because they don't grace the pew every Sunday, or that they don't "do enough" for the kingdom or souls.

Yep.

[The Lemon]

Crystal clear David - I understand where you are coming from now and don't disagree.

I realize it is few and far between even in the instances I posted. Glad you chimed in here!

[The Lemon]

...and I do believe in provoking one another to good works - and with that in mind, men do need to step up spiritually as well as financially and etc. With all that, the man who is trying his level best to guide his home needs the authority to do so and balance it as he seeks God.

I do not believe it is anyones place but Gods, to jump in and mediate between a husband and wife and their home - that is not a line a pastor should cross - with the exception of the couple individually or together, living in sin, and parading this around in front of the church.

Of course, one mans balance is another compromise, so a win/win is difficult here..

[RandyWayne]

A former pastor recognized these issues which is why we started a yearly "sportsmen hunting and fishing" night in our church basement where we got together to discus hunting, fishing, firearms, etc. Man women came (and enjoyed it) but the night was really designed for men and their sons. In just a few years the thing became huge where we had dozens of local businesses donating raffle items. It brought in several dozen visitors as well.

My father-in-law (on the right) talking to one of my dads neighbors, who was a visitor and happens to be a taxidermist (and who looks an awful lot like Uncle Si) on the left.



Even set up a shooting range in one corner where we had a few airguns and bows (no actual firearms though for obvious reasons).

[Esaias]

I'd keep an eye on that dude in the KISS shirt... looks a little glassy eyed there..

lol