Doesn't the Institutional churches get it yet? NO!
Some have and started additional home meetings, which is a help.
But at least some on here should see, that it is time for REFORM.
I don't know how that is to happen, I wouldn't know how to go about it. But I don't believe it will happen until the Persecution starts.
The HEAD is sick. And the BODY keeps trying to feed it. I'm talking about the Institutional HEADQUARTERS.
Thank you for the article. I intend to read with the goal of gaining understanding!
let me just add.... and this has more to do with where I am today than anything said in AFF, or in this thread.....
Part of why some men hate church is because they are stinking selfish little boys who refuse to at like men. They play like they are men. they get some woman to sleep with them, they provide DNA for the creation of children, but the closest then to manhood they actually include in their own lives is showing their stinking drivers license to the poor soul serving them alcohol.
in short, Punk Kids dont act like grownups. Grownups recognize certain requirements of adulthood.
There I feel better. Hope that splapped some punk kid BOY in the fact. GROW UP!
carry on...
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Doesn't the Institutional churches get it yet? NO!
Some have and started additional home meetings, which is a help.
But at least some on here should see, that it is time for REFORM.
I don't know how that is to happen, I wouldn't know how to go about it. But I don't believe it will happen until the Persecution starts.
The HEAD is sick. And the BODY keeps trying to feed it. I'm talking about the Institutional HEADQUARTERS.
Renee, do you attend a home church? are you part of that kind of structure?
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
Thank you for the article. I intend to read with the goal of gaining understanding!
let me just add.... and this has more to do with where I am today than anything said in AFF, or in this thread.....
Part of why some men hate church is because they are stinking selfish little boys who refuse to at like men. They play like they are men. they get some woman to sleep with them, they provide DNA for the creation of children, but the closest then to manhood they actually include in their own lives is showing their stinking drivers license to the poor soul serving them alcohol.
in short, Punk Kids dont act like grownups. Grownups recognize certain requirements of adulthood.
There I feel better. Hope that splapped some punk kid BOY in the fact. GROW UP!
carry on...
As for the article, I think the author is spot on. The church structure (in general) in western society seems to be geared more for women than for men. Society in general seems to be moving in the same direction, the two situations are obviously connected.
As for the article, I think the author is spot on. The church structure (in general) in western society seems to be geared more for women than for men. Society in general seems to be moving in the same direction, the two situations are obviously connected.
Especially in regards to the music.
LOL! sorry for the personal rant. needed to get that off my chest in a "safe" environment!
Thank you for the article. I think I will find some stuff there that can help us!
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Today's music is catered to women... "Hold me in your arms" "take me to that secret place"
There are more. All these "Jesus is my boyfriend" songs need to go. I mean, you could sing a lot songs as worships songs as well as songs to your loved one. They're interchangeable.
The article has several good points to think about.
IMO, the big 3 reasons I see for lack of men at church:
1) Pure laziness. They work during the week and want to sit and watch football on Sundays
2) Either no men's ministry or a very boring one (this is one area where I wish my church was better. The men's ministry hardly ever does anything, and when they do it's generally meeting on a saturday morning for breakfast. Woooot!)
3) Wimpy messages that focus more on Olsteen-style be positive, not negative, "you can do it!" junk; instead of preaching against sin and for living a holy life.
I don't believe the music has much to do with it; however, I'm biased, being the music minister at my church. Perhaps the skinny jeans trend turns some off, but not the music.
If they hate Church which is a questionable statement......could it be because they are presented a steady diet of milk or even water of the word? Never any meat? Never the challenge to be like the ultimate man Jesus Christ?
The reason I do not attend Church is simple. Theres not enough truth taught to make it worthwhile. Almost everything taught at least foundationally is taught wrong. So I would LIKE to go to Church.
My prayer is God please let me find the true Church or at least a worthwhile Church before I die.
I too pray that prayer. I pray that not only do I find it... but that I will be accepting of it when I do.
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