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06-21-2013, 01:33 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day
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Originally Posted by Pressing-On
I can certainly relate to what you are saying here and could also share many similar stories. I'd have to hesitate doing that as it really affects my faith.
My main purpose in bringing up the subject is that it bugs me more than honoring fathers on Father's Day. I think that we should always focus on the strong family unit no matter the mistakes and bad examples we have before us. A strong family makes for a strong church which makes for a strong community.
However, to turn every occasion into a celebration of the ministry has always turned me off. And maybe coming out of Catholicism, it bugs me more, I don't know.
I was really wondering if anyone has done a study, have we discussed this here, because I don't really know how much honor we are supposed to bestow on the ministry. I didn't ever notice Jesus or the Disciples demanding the attention and honor that the present ministry displays.
I don't come to church for the ministry, never have and never will.
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Was it not Christ Himself that Pastor Paul would suffer mightily for His Namesake.
That's honor right there Sister! To be singled out by God Himself to suffer and if that's not enough Paul is not part of the 12 and that means he won't be getting the special pastor seating. 
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06-21-2013, 02:51 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day
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Was it not Christ Himself that Pastor Paul would suffer mightily for His Namesake.
That's honor right there Sister! To be singled out by God Himself to suffer and if that's not enough Paul is not part of the 12 and that means he won't be getting the special pastor seating. |
 
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06-21-2013, 04:41 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day
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Of course I agree with you. I also believe many pastors believe that they have the role of Shepherd, and I do believe in honor and respecting those deserving of it.
It's just that I also believe, like in the conversation I shared - "Yes, call the Priest, call the Preacher", there is that underlying thought process of authority that lay with the Priesthood toward the people and is still being carried forward. |
Well, whenever you hear people using terms like 'the laity', or speaking of a church as 'Brother So-and-so's church', etc... well, might be an indication of what's really going on there.
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06-21-2013, 05:10 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day
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Was it not Christ Himself that Pastor Paul would suffer mightily for His Namesake.
That's honor right there Sister! To be singled out by God Himself to suffer and if that's not enough Paul is not part of the 12 and that means he won't be getting the special pastor seating.
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Amen!
My husband was saying that he just feels honored that God would give him something to share with the congregation. That is enough honor. We don't need anything more than that.
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Well, whenever you hear people using terms like 'the laity', or speaking of a church as 'Brother So-and-so's church', etc... well, might be an indication of what's really going on there.
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True. Have seen that a lot.
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06-21-2013, 05:28 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day
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Well, whenever you hear people using terms like 'the laity', or speaking of a church as 'Brother So-and-so's church', etc... well, might be an indication of what's really going on there.
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I don't think refering to a church as bro So n So's church" always says that. It simply IDs which congregation one is refering to. Like me saying "my church is selling tacos this Sunday"
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06-21-2013, 05:39 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day
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I don't think refering to a church as bro So n So's church" always says that. It simply IDs which congregation one is refering to. Like me saying "my church is selling tacos this Sunday"
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Uh huh. Riiiiiight.
"What church do you go to?"
A. 'My church.'
B. 'ABC Pentecostal Assembly of the Lord Jesus, Apostolic Faith International (Podunk, Missouri).'
C. 'Brother Joe's church.'
Hmmm.....
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06-21-2013, 06:18 PM
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Re: Alienated Church: Father's and Mother's day
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I don't think refering to a church as bro So n So's church" always says that. It simply IDs which congregation one is refering to. Like me saying "my church is selling tacos this Sunday"
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I agree that it is not always meant in that way, but I have experienced times when it was.
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