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04-15-2013, 11:25 PM
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What is Nature of Original Sin?
Is original sin pride, selfishness or lust? what is the nature of original sin? do we overcome original sin through new birth? what is relationship between born again creature and original sin?
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04-16-2013, 10:06 AM
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Re: What is Nature of Original Sin?
"Original sin" means one of three things:
1. The sin Adam committed in the Garden.
2. Our human nature, inherited by descent from Adam, which is condemned by God as sinful and which exposes all humans to condemnation unless they are regenerated.
3. Our human condition or state of condemnation by virtue of Adam's sin, as he was our 'federal head', and that his act was done by all of us corporately in him personally. Thus, Adam as our 'representative', sinned and incurred judgement upon all of us.
Other than #1, the 'original sin' doctrine is a false doctrine not found in Scripture.
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04-16-2013, 01:04 PM
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Re: What is Nature of Original Sin?
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Originally Posted by Esaias
"Original sin" means one of three things:
1. The sin Adam committed in the Garden.
2. Our human nature, inherited by descent from Adam, which is condemned by God as sinful and which exposes all humans to condemnation unless they are regenerated.
3. Our human condition or state of condemnation by virtue of Adam's sin, as he was our 'federal head', and that his act was done by all of us corporately in him personally. Thus, Adam as our 'representative', sinned and incurred judgement upon all of us.
Other than #1, the 'original sin' doctrine is a false doctrine not found in Scripture.
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Your post very succinctly presents what takes theologians many big thick books to "explain" (read--'Confuse').
I find that an interesting parallel between what happened in the Garden and John's writing in 1 John 2:16-- For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
These are the same temptations satan used on Eve and again on Jesus i the wilderness trial. Perhaps if we were taught better how to stand in these areas that "original sin" wouldn't be able to dog us so incessantly.
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04-16-2013, 01:10 PM
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Re: What is Nature of Original Sin?
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Originally Posted by larrylyates
Your post very succinctly presents what takes theologians many big thick books to "explain" (read--'Confuse').
I find that an interesting parallel between what happened in the Garden and John's writing in 1 John 2:16-- For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the world.
These are the same temptations satan used on Eve and again on Jesus i the wilderness trial. Perhaps if we were taught better how to stand in these areas that "original sin" wouldn't be able to dog us so incessantly.
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Agreed. What I would love to see and hear is more preaching on real holiness. Not 'makeup and hair, dresses and shoes' but heart purity, sanctification, the fruit of the Spirit... you know, all the old time good stuff that doesn't make for tickling the tummy or scratching the itchy ears...
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04-16-2013, 02:25 PM
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Re: What is Nature of Original Sin?
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Agreed. What I would love to see and hear is more preaching on real holiness. Not 'makeup and hair, dresses and shoes' but heart purity, sanctification, the fruit of the Spirit... you know, all the old time good stuff that doesn't make for tickling the tummy or scratching the itchy ears...
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Amen, my friend. Amen!
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04-16-2013, 04:09 PM
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Re: What is Nature of Original Sin?
Original sin is a very true BIBLICAL DOCTRINE. It is the result of Adam's sin that is passed down to each and every human the result being we are born sinners. It manifest itself in our natural bend toward sin.
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04-16-2013, 04:22 PM
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Re: What is Nature of Original Sin?
Disobedience.
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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04-17-2013, 01:17 PM
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Re: What is Nature of Original Sin?
Because of one man's disobedience, sin came into the world. Sin didn't exist until after Adam's disobedience. Even if it was a nanosecond later. No original sin. Sin in all of its form or nature came all at once.
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04-17-2013, 01:39 PM
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Re: What is Nature of Original Sin?
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Originally Posted by Luke
Original sin is a very true BIBLICAL DOCTRINE. It is the result of Adam's sin that is passed down to each and every human the result being we are born sinners. It manifest itself in our natural bend toward sin.
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I wonder if the Law of sin and death is not often confused with the doctrine of Original Sin in people's minds here. The Law of sin and death is irrevocable; the Doctrine of Original Sin is a completely different animal--and, as I mentioned on another thread, the facts of its adoption have been intentionally obscured from imo. OS is strictly Western Christian. A fatal premise. Peace!
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04-17-2013, 01:48 PM
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