Obama Voters: What Should The Prez Do About Econ?

[Originalist]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

tax the rich. end the wars. use half to pay down the debt and half to invest and spur economic growth. some spending cuts to defense. reform medicare. that is what won. a balanced approach.

I was wondering,can you tell us what percent of all income tax collected comes from the top one percent of income earners?

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Originalist

I was wondering,can you tell us what percent of all income tac collected comes from the top one percent of income earners?

UGGH! Now there you go trying to make a liberal reveal that they don't have a clue.

Your sure to be stonewalled now.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by trialedbyfire

In other words here's what you just said without liberal spin:

-take peoples money.
-leave the middle east (but continue to fund the building of schools and ........ in nations that hate us)
-give the money to welfare
-cut military and veterans benefits so we'll be on food stamps too
-socialize the health care system.

Yeup sounds like Obama's agenda more or less, we'll see if that doesn't end us up like Greece or Spain.

Here's my take on it...

-take peoples money. (The rich have too many shelters and don't pay their fair share.)-leave the middle east (but continue to fund the building of schools and ........ in nations that hate us) ((I'd rather educate them today in the hopes of not having to bomb them tomorrow)).
-give the money to welfare (State issue)
-cut military and veterans benefits so we'll be on food stamps too (Nope.)
-socialize the health care system. (It's already socialized. Why do you think our premiums are so high??? We're paying for uninsured people who walk into the ER, or doctor's office, and don't pay ANYTHING).

On health care... the ONLY way to have a truly "free market" health care system is to turn away those who can't pay. Period. You can't give out a product or service to all and have only a portion of people paying for it. The costs will rise exponentially until no one can afford it. Imagine if an automobile dealership ran it's business the way American medicine is managed. We have an ER for people who need a car. They don't have the money to pay for the car but we give it to them anyway and bill them. What would happen to the price of cars??? The price would rise until no one could afford one. Duh!!!

Deny health care services to people who don't have insurance or who are unable to pay. Or... make EVERYONE pay into the system.

[scotty]

Originally Posted by Aquila

Here's my take on it...

leave the middle east (but continue to fund the building of schools and ........ in nations that hate us) ((I'd rather educate them today in the hopes of not having to bomb them tomorrow)).

This is assuming you truly believe the education they get will be US friendly.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Duh!!!

I have noticed you using this little three letter word for " how could you be so stupid" a lot lately. Its very unbecoming and beneath you.

Originally Posted by Aquila

Deny health care services to people who don't have insurance or who are unable to pay. Or... make EVERYONE pay into the system.

But EVERYONE still will not be paying into the system, that is the problem, its still not a fair fix.

[Aquila]

Originally Posted by scotty

This is assuming you truly believe the education they get will be US friendly.

True, one can only hope.


I have noticed you using this little three letter word for " how could you be so stupid" a lot lately. Its very unbecoming and beneath you.
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Sorry, I'm just a bit upset with how so many THINK we have free market health care without national insurance programs. Until they turn people away from ERs who don't have cash or insurance... it's not free market.

But EVERYONE still will not be paying into the system, that is the problem, its still not a fair fix.

Ah... yes... However, far MORE would be paying into the system than are now, especially under a single payer model. Slowly, we could find a way to make everyone accept the homeless man sleeping in a park pay something towards the system. Even a portion of a person's unemployment check or welfare check could be alotted to pay into the system.

Until we either go single payer or deny those without the means to pay... we're all going to pay ever increasing premiums to cover an ever increasing number of those who don't pay anything.