The Real Delegate Count - It's Over!

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by CC1

If you are talking about Romney winning the General I have never said that is a foregone conclusion. I have only said he is certain to get the nomination.

If you look at my posts you will see I have consistently expressed concern over the 30-40% of "independent" voters who determine each Presidential election. They typically are not politically involved very much and vote whichever way the wind is blowing and whichever candidate they feel the most comfortable with (one of the reasons by the way that in this age of media we MUST nominate candidates who are good communicators and appealing).

Added to the worry about the independents is that you malcontents could very well cost us a close election. If 5% of normally Republican voters stay home they will be handing the election to Obama.

Most of the Independents are former Republicans. And as a "malcontent", if you go missing, I'm going to demand that Romney submit to a colonoscopy.

[AreYouReady?]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Most of the Independents are former Republicans. And as a "malcontent", if you go missing, I'm going to demand that Romney submit to a colonoscopy.

[CC1]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Most of the Independents are former Republicans. And as a "malcontent", if you go missing, I'm going to demand that Romney submit to a colonoscopy.

This statement is fundamentally in error. There are a significant group of independents who are not politically astute enough to consider themselves either Democrat or Republican. They just don't care so are uninformed and uneducated.

Sure there are some disgruntled Republicans who consider themselves independents just as there are some conservative leaning Democrats that are disgruntled with the Democrat party and so consider themselves independents.

That doesn't do away with who makes up the vast majority of independents and those are the ones I described as sticking their finger up in the air each election to see which way the wind is blowing and then base their vote on that or how they are "feeling" about a particular candidate.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by CC1

This statement is fundamentally in error. There are a significant group of independents who are not politically astute enough to consider themselves either Democrat or Republican. They just don't care so are uninformed and uneducated.

Sure there are some disgruntled Republicans who consider themselves independents just as there are some conservative leaning Democrats that are disgruntled with the Democrat party and so consider themselves independents.

That doesn't do away with who makes up the vast majority of independents and those are the ones I described as sticking their finger up in the air each election to see which way the wind is blowing and then base their vote on that or how they are "feeling" about a particular candidate.

Media Audit put out a report earlier this year stating that the Republican Party has lost 15% of its strength between 2004 and 2012. That decline and the growth in Independents (Tea Party who became disenchanted with Republican politics) is pretty indicative that the growth came from the Republican Party.

And your statement characterizing an Independent sticking their finger in the air to see which way the wind blows, as though they don't calculate which candidate would best serve this country, is fundamentally in error.

When we moved to our area, there were only one or two Independents on our ballot. Now, there is an Independent running for every office. Pretty amazing.

They are simply disaffected political partisans who everyone runs to because, they decide the election. Politicians pander to get their vote. They are in the driver's seat. When they don't see anything worth driving to the voting booth for, they don't vote. They tilt elections from one major party to the other - so who needs the Independent? You do.