Electric Cars and the Environment?

[Praxeas]

I was listening to a radio show talk about a report some one did on Electric cars. Apparently, since they are electric after all, electricity use will go up by 60%

And the more electricity that gets used in California (which is already more expensive than most states), the higher the cost goes up. California has a tiered system where the more you use, the high the rate goes up.

The irony is, the more electricity we use in the nation (coal burning states) the more pollutants go into the atmosphere. California has reduced it's usage to about 1%...so the price for California to go green? Financially it's high. The rest of the nation that uses coal? More pollution. So we would have to pay more money to save more of the earth so other states can produce more emissions? odd

http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?sec...een&id=7899519

[Baron1710]

Prax, my dad works on an oil lease in Santa Barbara County, they have been forced to reduce their emissions by spending millions to convert the pumps to electric while at the same time burning natural gas to get rid of it because it costs more to store it than they can get out of it.

I wonder what happened to T. Boon and his natural gas plans? And why we continue to drive the price of our own oil up because of the cost of all the regulations.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Prax, my dad works on an oil lease in Santa Barbara County, they have been forced to reduce their emissions by spending millions to convert the pumps to electric while at the same time burning natural gas to get rid of it because it costs more to store it than they can get out of it.

I wonder what happened to T. Boon and his natural gas plans? And why we continue to drive the price of our own oil up because of the cost of all the regulations.

I don't know about natural gas but I have heard that solar and wind are incredibly inefficient sources for electricity. You have to have huge huge huge plots of land all turned into wind farms and solar farms.

It's too bad the greatest sources of energy on the planet are too hard or impossible to harvest...the ocean being one,though I do recall hearing about a project somewhere..

The "green" laws we passed really only go to hurt one big job producing industry and helping one small little to no job industry where someone is getting very rich off of it

[Praxeas]

Another reason why Liberalism really is a mental disorder and most of California are too stoopid to think for themselves and instead go by commericals featuring ugly polluting smoke stacks, never mind that I've never seen a smoke stack in California for as long as I can remember...all I see is steam

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

Prax, my dad works on an oil lease in Santa Barbara County, they have been forced to reduce their emissions by spending millions to convert the pumps to electric while at the same time burning natural gas to get rid of it because it costs more to store it than they can get out of it.

I wonder what happened to T. Boon and his natural gas plans? And why we continue to drive the price of our own oil up because of the cost of all the regulations.

Hey, I do recall seeing in SBC there is a "stack" or some kind of release valve where fire is always burning from. Its like a giant candle you can see every night you drive down the coast...I wonder if that is where your dad works.

yeah it sucks to have to burn off such a precious commodity that is too expensive to store

[Baron1710]

Originally Posted by Praxeas

Hey, I do recall seeing in SBC there is a "stack" or some kind of release valve where fire is always burning from. Its like a giant candle you can see every night you drive down the coast...I wonder if that is where your dad works.

yeah it sucks to have to burn off such a precious commodity that is too expensive to store

They are a lot of places in oil fields, I believe they are called flares. It is possible that you could see it because it is between hwy 1 and 101 before you get to Santa Maria.

[Azzan]

Prax, you don't need land to build wind farms. A lot of wind farms are out in the ocean.

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Baron1710

They are a lot of places in oil fields, I believe they are called flares. It is possible that you could see it because it is between hwy 1 and 101 before you get to Santa Maria.

Highway 1 between Ventura and SB

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by Azzan

Prax, you don't need land to build wind farms. A lot of wind farms are out in the ocean.

I've never seen any wind farms on the west coast..where are they? Needless to say, they still have built a lot of inland wind farms

[Azzan]

I don't know of any on the west coast. I believe there is some in the gulf and I know there is talk of building in the Atlantic.

America is way behind in harnessing wind power. Europe is way ahead of us in this respect.