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Old 11-16-2010, 04:43 PM
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Re: Isaiah 3 and jewelry...

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If Jewelry would ever threaten the condition of another soul, I would think the conviction of the Holy Ghost would always lead to abstinence from it.
I agree. But what the Spirit convicts us to do is the issue. Also, jewelry is not something that would threaten the condition of the average soul.

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In Paul's case, I do not think the Spirit would every lead us contrary to showing Christian character. Maybe this is really what its about anyway, the character of Christ. We read into the law of no jewelry at all when its really how we can better show the character of Christ. Can we see the positive, versus the negative, in this scripture?
The overall scriptures must be weighed out, and not a single verse. That means the question of God using a sinful metaphor to represent a holy act makes nonsense out of the picture.

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Actually what I meant by this is that Christ teaches us to turn the other cheek and to give one that sues you our coat and cloke both, rather than despising him for taking it. Thats a stark contrast wouldn't you think?
Yes, it is a contrast of covenants. But it shows no contradiction. Contrasts and contradictions are two different things. Because God can change hearts, stoning someone for a sin is no longer the remedy under the new covenant. Either way, RDP alleges a contradiction in the way God looks at things.

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Our only example is Christ for he is now our high priest. We look at what he might have worn compared to the priestly attire of the Old Covenant. There is a stark difference. Why did Christ choose this lifestyle and why does he ask us to follow him in the same mindset of modesty and simplicity?
He had a very expensive robe... one with no seams. A seamless garment was costly array, really. So again it all boils down to lack of understanding the context of Peter's and Paul's words.

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I know the HG would indeed bid us to all take Paul's advice, else why would it be deemed as the Holy Writ? Now as to the penalty for not taking his advice, thats what is debatable.
Actually what exactly was his advice is the issue. It is not total abstinence from jewelry. It is forbiddence of dependence of jewelry to show Christian character. No matter which way we slice it, the context is not saying never wear jewels.

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Thanks and though I may not use RDP methods, I agree with the end result. I just reach that agreement differently.
Although I claim the end result is traditional error and misinterpretation of the scriptures due to not catching the context, I appreciate your civility. You are also not using ridiculous arguments that rdp uses, that make no sense.
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