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Originally Posted by Truthseeker
Haven't heard many from the faith alone crowd address that scripture?
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Don't need to address this scripture it speaks for its self.
Heb 5:9 And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;
He (Jesus) was made perfect so that he became the author of eternal salvation.
We aready know this.
Oh you want to address the "unto all them that obey him" That is even easier we do obey him, the problem is what we see as the commandments of God and when they apply and what you see the commandments of God as.
I will say this though any time a group of people dictate to thier constituants how to live or not to live, that is in my mind defined as a cult. although what you are driving home are teachings of a nature that will not cause a person to break the law or sin you are just a thread from becoming a cult. Is it any wonder so many people are duped into cults like David Karesh ran his followers thought they were obeying the bible.
Maybe this is why the word say we are not to add to or take away from the teachings of said word. Or all the plagues will be place on our head.
Let me point out something, all the bickering back and forth on the passages in question, in Timothy and Peter, they say nothing about "jewlery" this is a word of your own definition. To some to wear a ring is not adorning the differance is you are adding your own definition of Gold and adorning and placing it on others and this is against the word of God. One in adding to the word of God and two telling a brother or sister what they are to see as sin.
I find it funny how some can pick and choose what they want to beleive and then push it on others. I don't see them obeying the the command to keep the Sabbath day and this is more of a command than they are making about thier pet peave of outward holiness. Tell me is the sabbath a commandment or not and tell me where did Jesus not keep the sabbath and where did he take away the keeping of the Sabbath? If any thing you are on your way to hell for not keeping the sabbath.