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Old 08-21-2010, 01:47 AM
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Re: Obama For Mosque at Ground Zero

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Yeah, why require actual proof? That would be crazy. lol Let's jump to irrational conclusions based on no evidence. AWESOME.
Finding such evidence can be tricky. A lot of the stuff that is being quoted concerning Rauf's calls for sharia in the United States and his primary fund raising theme* (which throws most of your "moderate" rhetoric out the window) are typically delivered in Arabic.

The University of Cairo's Department of Communications used to run a web site called rights4all.net. That site was the source for most of the things you hear in the blogosphere. When the current controversy kicked up, the University of Cairo closed down the site. Keying in that URL now just brings the Godaddy.com parking page.

(An example of the reporting by someone who was able to see the "rights4all.net" web site before it was pulled down: http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/a...post-911-.html).

A whois on the domain at Godaddy produces the following info for "rights4all.net" (I've obscured some of the email addy to protect this individual from being harvested by spiders and bots):

Registrant:
Einas Ibrahim
271 w 47th st
Apt 21F
Hawalli, Hawalli 10036
Kuwait

Registered through: GoDaddy.com, Inc. (http://www.godaddy.com)
Domain Name: RIGHTS4ALL.NET
Created on: 01-Feb-10
Expires on: 01-Feb-11
Last Updated on: 06-Mar-10

Administrative Contact:
Ibrahim, Einas weblady28@h###mail.com
271 w 47th st
Apt 21F
Hawalli, Hawalli 10036
Kuwait
2019250487

The domain name was only registered this past February. Kind of unusual to have to pull the whole thing down so soon, isn't it?


* Rauf's fund raising message to Muslims in the Middle East and Malaysia is "A Call to Prayer from the World Trade Center Rubble: Islamic Dawa in the Heart of post 9/11 America."

See: http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...rew-c-mccarthy

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/i...asp?indid=2462
http://www.heraldsun.com/view/full_s...most_commented
http://www.tnr.com/blog/foreign-poli...nstitution-law

The first item of interest here is that Rauf considers the Park51 site to be within "the rubble of the WTC." And, he is correct. The Burlington Coat factory building which currently sits on this site was badly damaged an left unusable when the landing gear from one of the jets crashed through the roof. The whole reason the property is available for redevelopment is because it was so badly damaged by the attacks on 9/11.

This next part is indelicate to describe but it bears consideration. The body parts of dozens of individuals were also found on, within and on the sides of this building. http://bigjournalism.com/fgaffney/20...d-zero-mosque/

For whatever reason, Keith Olbermann has convinced DA2 that this building has nothing to do with 9/11 or "Ground Zero."

"Olbermann nails it!" DA2 exclaimed. Yeah, well, the terrorists "nailed" Park51 on 9/11 as well!


"Dawa," (or da'wa or dawah in English transliteration) as mentioned in Rauf's book title is a term commonly used by Muslims to describe their proselytizing activities. The word can be translated as "a call" or even in more recent times as "an invitation" to accept Islam.

In the Quran itself however, the Prophet Muhammad left very clear instructions describing just how dawa is to be performed:

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