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Old 06-12-2009, 12:17 PM
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Re: Apology to World

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It is also a well-known fact that much of the money that funds Islamic radicals comes from the poppy drug trade. The drugs somehow find their way up the noses of christian nations <shrug>. The "funding" is always in dollars. The arms are never produced in these raggedy countries. They always come from somewhere else. Saudi Arabia certainly does not produce or export arms. Iran has no uranium within its own borders. Every uranium deposit in the world is clocked and tracked and identified. You can google it and get the list of (9) or (10) countries for yourself. Nobody on this site can deny that the foremost leader of world terror, Bin Laden, was trained, funded, supplied, and propped up by the US to fight the russians as a proxy. There would have been NO taliban and there would have been NO bin laden had there been no stinger missles, RPG's, grenades, guns, ammo, and other toys along with plenty of (again dollars) handed to those people by US government operatives.

You think Sudan makes ANYTHING of value? Do you know anything about Sudan? Sudan is a raggedy sandpile. Main source of income 150 years ago? Dollars. From the slave trade. lol. Go figure. Same time the Taliban was being trained and funded (80's) what was happening in Sudan? From Wiki: Western countries began supplying Sudan again in the mid 1970s. The United States began selling Sudan a great deal of equipments around 1976, hoping to counteract Soviet support of Marxist Ethiopians and Libyans. Military sales peaked in 1982 at US$101 million. After the start of the second civil war, American assistance dropped, and was eventually all but cancelled in 1987

Do your "white power" right wing articles ever reference recent history? Do they ever describe events leading up to their "calls to arms". I guess not. When the president does it you act shocked. I have no doubt that the "national review" was begging reagan to POUR arms and funding into these same raggedy countries that it is now calling to pound out of existance. The NR at that time called for anything but confront the russians face to face. I know. I was quite the hawk back then.

Moving on to Iraq and those terrible chemical weapons: first it was arms to iran for hostages (they were mad because we quit selling arms to them) then it was arms to iraq to teach iran a lesson

Tens of thousands of Iranian civilians and military personnel were killed when Iraq used chemical weapons in its warfare. Iraq was financially backed by Egypt, the Arab countries of the Persian Gulf, the Soviet Union and the Warsaw Pact states, the United States (beginning in 1983), France, the United Kingdom, Germany, Brazil, and the People's Republic of China (which also sold weapons to Iran).

It was perfectly OK back then (WE were angry about the iranian hostages) to pour weapons, technology, money, and support into Iraq so that they could fight their 10-year war with Iran. We could have cared less about "chemical weapons" or "weapons of mass destruction" while they were hurled across the border into Iran.

What kicked off the Iranian revolution? The excesses of the Shah regime and their relationships with the western oil consortiums. I currently and sadly see a parallel in Saudi Arabia.

Your "massive financial support" means little until the guns and ammo start arriving. Recent history indicates that each of these countries was deliberately used as a proxy to fight our battles for us. The guns and ammo arrive stamped "made in USA" and we have NO RIGHT to complain when our proxies turn back against us after we discard them. We also have no right to act stunned if we use them and get hated for it. After all, the spilled blood always ends up on THEIR soil not ours so who cares?
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