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Re: 7 Pounds and The Sacrifice of Christ
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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind
I'm trying to understand the difference you are making between martyrdom and suicide. Jesus could have answered the high priest differently and explained the profecies concerning the firstcoming of the messiah instead he provoked him by claiming he was God manifest in the flesh. He provoked him with the truth but he could have explained the prophecies and prevented his death. I see it as suicide, much like I think the movie has a noble and redemptive ending. What I'm trying to say is that I view a noble suicide much differently now that I've seen the movie.
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Maybe I just find it off-putting to call a martyrdom a suicide, noble or otherwise.  Purely semantics, I'm sure.
In the movie, I would call that a noble suicide, because he orchestrated his own death; it was his own doing. A martyrdom can be willing as well, for equally noble or nobler reasons, but is by another's hand.
If this is the case, as you're stating it, then every apostle that was martyred for the faith really committed suicide, as did every saint following. (who were killed for their faith)
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