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Old 05-18-2009, 02:04 PM
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Re: Angels and their ability to sin

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I don't think it's tradition. There seems to be biblical evidence the stars are angels, as you mentioned

Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars that you saw in my right hand and the seven golden lampstands is this: The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches and the seven lampstands are the seven churches.
But these angels in Rev 1 are not heavenly angels, for Jesus tells some of the angel of the churches to repent. In that case, angel is literally a messenger, as a called set preacher in a congregation.

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Dan 8:10 It grew so big it reached the army of heaven, and it brought about the fall of some of the army and some of the stars to the ground, where it trampled them.

Army....the Host of heaven.

1Ki 22:19 And he said, Hear thou therefore the word of the LORD: I saw the LORD sitting on his throne, and all the host of heaven standing by him on his right hand and on his left.

Host
tsaw-baw', tseb-aw-aw'
From H6633; a mass of persons (or figurative things), especially regularly organized for war (an army); by implication a campaign, literally or figuratively (specifically hardship, worship): - appointed time, (+) army, (+) battle, company, host, service, soldiers, waiting upon, war (-fare).

Job 38:7 when the morning stars sang together and all the sons of God shouted for joy?

Morning stars.

Now consider the context though

Rev 12:7 Now war arose in heaven, Michael and his angels fighting against the dragon. And the dragon and his angels fought back,
Rev 12:8 but he was defeated and there was no longer any place for them in heaven.
Rev 12:9 And the great dragon was thrown down, that ancient serpent, who is called the devil and Satan, the deceiver of the whole world--he was thrown down to the earth, and his angels were thrown down with him.
I think IT IS heavenly angels in Rev 12. But to say WHEN that occurred is another thing. Some say it occurred before man's creation, others say it occurred in the days of satan's downfall after the cross. Some say it has not yet occurred!
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