Incarnation OR Indwelling?

[ForeverBlessed]

Originally Posted by mizpeh

Was Jesus the Word made flesh? John 1:14 How would you define "Word"? John 1:1 states the Word was God not a thought, not an image, not an action.

Is it possible that Jesus not only was God existing as a man but was also anointed by God?

If you don't believe Jesus was God, you have to explain what he meant when He said in Rev 1:8 "I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty." Jesus said other things that indicated that He was/is God. The writers of the NT believed that Jesus was/is God.


The Word did bridge the gap when the Word became flesh. But the Word was God and the Word became man. These are not easy to reconcile nor explain whether you are Oneness or a Trinitarian. And a Unitarian has to explain away all the verses that teach the Messiah is God in the flesh. The Son shall be called The Mighty God.

Isa 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Then you may be surprised that many agree with your sentiments. Even though I believe Jesus is God Himself revealed in flesh, I do not believe Jesus did or said anything from His divine nature. He functioned as a man anointed by God. Jesus' very words attest to this fact.

John 7:16-17 Jesus answered them, and said, My doctrine is not mine, but his that sent me. If any man will do his will, he shall know of the doctrine, whether it be of God, or whether I speak of myself.

John 14:10 Believest thou not that I am in the Father, and the Father in me? the words that I speak unto you I speak not of myself: but the Father that dwelleth in me, he doeth the works.

Some people refer to the setting aside or nonuse of divine powers as a kenosis or an emptying. I see it somewhat differently.

God was Christ and God was in Christ. You have to accept both of these statements because it is what the Bible declares. How you reconcile these statements is up to you.

all I can say is I don't have a problem with any scripture you have posted here... I just see it differently... because I know see how he was the Word....

I also now understand how we are our words... the fleshly body was not God. His actions revealed was God.... just as people now look at us and we following the example that he lead... we now reflect Christ.... because he is reigning in power... it is his example... his actions that has paved the way that is all powerful by his sacrifice... doing things in the name of Jesus is simply doing as Jesus did... doing as the one we follow.

gotta go