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Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*
In the circles I'm in, let me ASSURE you it's not years ago!! Come get in the car with me some Sunday, and we'll go visit some churches.  (well, it'd probably take several Sunday to hit them all..... several years worth of Sundays as a matter of fact)
My kids were JUST at a youth conference where they heard that everyone was sinning who had or did any of the below (and much more):
... So when *I* say conservative, the above is what I'm referring to. Generally not talking about the UPC at all. |
The UPC at times does represent a sort of balance. The current leadership and most of the past leadership had nothing but sympathy from me. They were faced with dealing with a rather toxic sub-culture at times.
Did you ever notice- most of the churches and "ministries" that are described as "cultic" and such are also places and people that have run afoul of UPC leaders? Just Google it, or I'm sure most people here have seen the stories over the years.
Basically, what I see in the "overly controlling" types of churches are churches that the UPC itself is concerned about. This appears to be a problem that they have gingerly tried to deal with over the years; too "gingerly" for my tastes.
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