God's Will

[OP_Carl]

Originally Posted by Timmy

No.

I can't help but think that today's fundamentalists would have interpreted this to mean that they should not consider trying to break the yoke of Britain's tyranny. However, the founders were also were well versed in English common law, studied natural law, Greek history, and the fall of the Roman empire. They were learned, reasonable men earnest in their pursuit of what is right and just. But they were not Holy-Ghost filled fundamentalist apostolics.

The one signer of the declaration of independence whose religious beliefs were closest to our own, Quaker William Penn, asked to step out of the room for the vote to go to war.

But I don't believe that all authorities that exist were instituted by God. Some are evil. God didn't establish them.

So you do not believe that something that is not Godly and does not seek after God's will can be part of God's overall plan?

They are not servants of God.

In this same sense, neither was Balaam's ass. And yet, he was, when the time called for it. The Bible says that the unrighteous store up treasure for the righteous. It says that we will reap where we have not sown. I see clear scriptural principles that bolster the concept that ALL things work together for the good of those that are called and chosen unto Him.

And when an evil government punishes those who resist it, it is not doling out God's wrath. Just its own wrath. And doing what is good will not necessarily receive the government's approval.

And in the beginning, there was no bloodshed or death. Many things that some wish to attribute to external evil forces are simply manifestations of man's sinful nature inherited from the fall of Adam. Yet at the same time, Romans indicates that even the hearts of faraway heathen kings have God's law written on them. They have a conscience that could lead them to righteousness if they only dared to listen to it.

In other words, Romans 13:1-7 is wrong, in nearly every detail.

This is quite an interesting position to take. I would remind you that the weapons of our warfare are not carnal.