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Old 10-08-2008, 07:34 PM
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Re: The Five Fold Ministry

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This raises an interesting point. Is there a difference between the Offices of the five-fold ministry and the physical administrative Offices that run the church? I suspect this might be the case. Paul in the Epistles to Timothy and Titus refers to deacons and bishops but not to pastors. However, today there seems to be very little distinction between the role of pastor and bishop seems to be rolled up into one Office, with teachers more often than not relegated to Sunday school, and evangelists preaching revivals. Something seems seriously amiss here..........IMHO
I have had this very conversation with many; including my own pastors.

The consensus has always been that what we call a pastor is actually in the bible a Bishop (who mus be apt to teach).

A deacon is who serves the local and corporate church.

Also, we call a deacon an evangelist when they also preach the gospel.

A Pastor is a Sheppard (Teacher).

I am sure when looked at you will see this also.

The "Five fold ministry" is now and always was a non bible doctrine.

It is never expounded on as a part of Apostolic understanding.

The Apostles (12) were called The Apostles or The 12 Apostles of the Lamb ( Revelation 21:14) distinguishing them from any other apostles.

The "5 fold ministry" only appears in our doctrine, not that of the Apostles.

Like the word "rapture" and "trinity" it is also not found.

Ron
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