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[Carpenter]

Originally Posted by Jason

I don't think it is lust, if you notice a woman is wearing something that is immodest. I work in a grocery store/corporation so I have to deal with customers all the time, and the majority are women. I see someone at church dressed very immodestly, does it mean I lusted? I don't think so, I made it habit long ago, if I see something that may bring thoughts not of God to simply look away. God knows my heart, and helps me.

I was raised in the "world", and have bee saved a relatively short time, I am only 27, so perhaps I am more aware of my "surroundings" than you.

As my pastor says "I'm saved, but I ain't blind... If it ain't for sales, don't put it in the window."

So because I am FOR MODESTY you are ripping me?
Also, I believe it goes both ways, when I was in the world, I had a very good physique and would often wear basketball jerzees, or such that would show my arms and chest. After I came to the Lord, I was convicted to cover myself (at least with a t-shirt-i'm not all for lon sleeves). So I beleive that guys should be modest too, but clothing is certainly more of a feminine issue.
Also, I have been married for 8 years, eat home cooking all the time, and haven't worked out in a long while-so I guess that takes care of that issue for good.

The only thing I rip is those who believe they feel it is their duty to step outside their own convictions to begin applying them and setting them as the bar of expectations for others.

It is ridiculous that we have created this religious society and culture wherein we believe we can police our own lust by expecting our women not to wear that which is lustful, yet are we not residents of this planet?

If we were truly to be separated from the world, we would be living in these biospheres that could only be inhabited by the skirtpeople. Remove the object of lust and there will be no lust. Right?

yeeesh.

On the other hand if we say we are going to live according to our own convictions, the problem is that they just aren't good enough! OUR CONVICTIONS ARE NOT GOOD ENOUGH IN THE EYES OF THE ESTABLISHMENT! TRUE CONVICTIONS NEED TO BE STANDARDIZED. This is what the church is saying to us, we have no personal convictions if they do not mirror the convictions of the church.