Do You Believe in Predetermination?

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by Pastor Poster

You do not believe in the permissive will of God?

If there is no permissive will, couldn't we say that God creates evil and makes people sin? He makes the devil tempt, murderers murder, and so on?

Rhetorical question, as I know you don't believe that my friend!

You are currently on the path that leads to understanding that God, not man is the FIRST CAUSE. Everything and I mean everthing flows from Him. The fall was not Plan B, it was God's plan A. God is the creator and He placed everthing that is, in His creation. All that has come to pass is by design, neither the wimpy efforts of Satan, nor the so call "freewill" of man will thwart His total victory. He will redeem the whole creation, sin and death will be destroyed, but GOD'S creation will be made whole. His whole creation will worship Him. "...every knee and every mouth..."