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Originally Posted by DividedThigh
the mess in korea and the concessions made by the clinton admin are just that a mess, made it worse, you can talk all you want with this liberal jargon, lets understand them, we dont know what there intents are, etc, bottom line we know from there past behavior they are a rogue nation, carter is a nut, my opinion, and i am still not voting for any presidential candidate that wants to raise my taxes and wont protect unborn innocents, bye, dt  |
I don’t know why you assume I think we should get to know and understand N. Korea. We’ve known them quite well and have already been at war with them. I’m only saying that the failure of the NK negotiations prove that the United States tried to lead the way with regards to arms reduction in the region. NK’s actions prove to the world that it’s not us perpetuating this…it’s them. Also if you look increased sanctions were issued against NK from around the world. Politically we walked away with our head up. We tried. They lied.
Though the deal was obviously broken by the NKs did it avert a military confrontation?
Your taxes, your taxes. LOL
Healthcare is a big deal in this election. Here’s the difference between you and me. You don’t want the government raising your taxes and negotiating lower premiums to ultimately reduce your overall spending with regards to health insurance. The average American family could end up saving $200 a month with some of the ideas the Democrats favor. You’d rather pay at least twice as much for a private insurance system that leaves nearly 50% of Americans underinsured? Hey…if they pass the Democratic plan and prices fall and premiums are negotiated and you start saving money each month…feel free to mail it to my family. LOL
When it comes to abortion….neither party can do anything about it. No Supreme Court is going to criminalize women or doctors who procure or perform abortions. What do the courts do with violators? Arrest them? Execute them? Bro…here’s a dose of painful reality, legal abortion’s here and it’s not going anywhere. The position of our nation has become choice and that’s never going to change regardless as to who’s President. Oh, Republicans will use it to manipulate our religious convictions to get us clapping like seals and barking their praises for the election…but the Republicans aren’t going to do a thing about it. So we have to understand that we are living in a pro-choice nation, in fact, a pro-choice world. It seems like God has permitted governments to pass the moral choice of the matter down to the individual. Why? In a pro-choice world there’s only one thing that will reduce abortion, preaching the gospel. The gospel is all about choices. By preaching the gospel we shape and influence people’s choices. But sadly, even with us preaching the gospel many will still choose abortion.
Here’s something, I think Satan loves abortion politics. Christians spend more time and money trying to end abortion politically than we do preaching the gospel. Abortion politics becomes a distraction. It also polarizes us, thereby keeping us from addressing problems that we in fact have the power to change. This world is not our home. This world’s ways have never and will never align with God’s ways this side of Christ’s return.
Please note: America’s abortion rate is still rather high for most Western countries (please note America doesn’t provide the same social infrastructure as most Western Countries). But even with the abortion rate as high as it is, the abortion rate per every 1000 pregnancies is still lower today (with abortion legal) than it was in 1972 (with abortion illegal). So laws don’t affect abortion rates. You can ban it two or three times in a row, yep, triple ban it…but the abortion rate will most likely not change one bit.
You have to address the issues women who are choosing abortion face. Guess what…most women who procure abortion live near or below the poverty level. Most women who procure abortion…don’t have health insurance. Most women who procure abortion don’t make a living wage. Most are minorities. Abortion is a moral abomination that is married to poverty. Belgium has one of the lowest abortion rates in the world. They’ve addressed the issues poor women face. Issues like health insurance, day care costs, and living wages. It all comes down to this…if it will cost us in taxes to fund social programs to help reduce the abortion rates…many who claim to be “pro-life” don’t care how many babies get aborted. They’d rather save their precious money. They ease their conscience by re-assuring themselves that they fought to pass a “law”. Even if we banned abortion today, knowing what I know, we’d still need the social infrastructure to reduce the abortion rate among poor women. Eventually we’ll have to address the issues of unwed mothers, unplanned pregnancies, the lack of health insurance, mother’s who are “working poor” being unable to afford day care, and wages.
I know a guy who works for the city. The man is an awesome mechanical maintenance technician. We were talking about universal health insurance yesterday. In the conversation we talked about how if they passed a universal health insurance program the city would drop the current plan we’re on. He said, “I know this much. I wouldn’t work for the city.” I said, “Really? You like our plan that much?” He said laughing, “No. I’d leave because with universal health insurance I’d go into business for myself. I only keep this job because I need the benefits and couldn’t afford health insurance if I went into business for myself right now.” That’s something else to consider. With universal health insurance how many “wage slaves” would choose to become self employed?
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