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Old 03-09-2007, 02:46 PM
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Well, no, it doesn't give you "self-esteem." Recognizing that someone else, i.e. Christ, places value on you is not an act of you esteeming yourself or placing value on yourself.

However, this notion of us being SOOOOOOOO valuable to Christ that He would give Himself for us is false doctrine. The Bible makes it clear that all flesh is as grass (here one moment and burned up in the fire the next) and that all our righteousnesses are as filthy rags (for the sake of delicacy, I won't bother to go into what that means in the Hebrew). We are commanded to deny ourselves, die to self, etc. These are acts of self-effacement, not self-esteem. Paul explained in Romans 9 that there was nothing inherently good in Jacob or inherently bad in Esau that caused God to love Jacob and hate Esau. Also, what was Job's reaction when God showed him where he really stood with God? Did he esteem himself? No.

Self-esteem and lowliness of mind are absolutely incompatible.
I don't know this is what Jesus said..

Luke 12:6-8 (King James Version)
6Are not five sparrows sold for two farthings, and not one of them is forgotten before God?

7But even the very hairs of your head are all numbered. Fear not therefore: ye are of more value than many sparrows.

8Also I say unto you, Whosoever shall confess me before men, him shall the Son of man also confess before the angels of God...
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