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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
This discussion on the John 7:20 as prooftext to salvific tongues or "receiving the HG" ...
and reconciling it w/ your sacramentarian re-enactment doctrine, Grasshopper, is plain holey ...
1. in the misuse of a translated word that is not there
2. a confusing theology that mistakes glorification w/ ascension
3. inability to harmonize your salvific works-based pattern w/ the book of Acts in all instances and faith-based doctrine taught in the Epistles and Gospels. |
1---You keep referring to
John 7:20. Do you mean
John 7:39 ??
2-- What misuse of a translated word? (Do you even read what I said, or do u just get ready for your next snappy response?) I said plainly that
either word used there ("given" or "come") works for me, and neither affects the gist of the verse's meaning. Is that so hard to understand? Go and read it again if you missed it.
3-- You still haven't responded to the fact that the Commentarian you relied on in that post was
using extra-biblical Jewish philosophers like Maimonides to help make his point... which in turn you used to make your point.
4-- You haven't responded to my point that there is no biblical backing for your contention
that the Holy Ghost left Israel after Malachi died. (I guess that's why you relied on someone's commentary)
5--- You still haven't responded to the fact that even if the Holy Ghost left after Malachi died (un-biblical, but lets go with it for a minute)... the Holy Ghost was here when Zechariah and Elizabeth were here in
Luke 1, so
your whole argument that John 7:39 referred to the "coming" back of the Holy Ghost to Israel is just implausible.
This is just the
latest in a series of proven errors you continue to manifest. Thus, I'll say it again, it's hard to take you seriously. Credibility matters with me, and your repeated
fau pax's just on this thread alone makes you NOT someone I can consider a credible voice on this issue.
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Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea
For more on John 7:20 and it's ramifications w/ Christ's glorification and the indwelling of the Spirit of Christ in us ... go to the following thread:
http://apostolicfriendsforum.com/showthread.php?t=10503
Kudos on the flailing verbal energy ... but you got to work on the power behind your anemic unsubstantive haymakers. |
No I'm not inclined to rush over there and re-re-hash this issue. Unlike you, I find the PCI/PAJC thing to be intriguing, but I'm not obsessed with it as you seem to be at times.
As I said on a previous post, I find it intriguing that some folks seem to almost put more energy into fighting "PAJC-ers" and the "PAJC positon", rather than fighting the devil and the myriad of false doctrines out there. Your seemingly unbalanced fixation with this single issue is becoming more and more bothersome, frankly.
Blessings..
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