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Originally Posted by Carpenter
No, giving to the church is not ALWAYS spiritual. Giving to the LORD is spiritual. After the fact there is something about feeling taken advantage of after the emphasis and thrust has NOT been giving to the Lord but the outright statement of "Lets Pay off the Church" and that is what this Men's retreat is all about (really) under the guise of empowering men...for all those reasons men need to be spiritually empowered.
Like I said it was contrived upon reflection. Get the men away from their wives, put them in a vulnerable mindset under a spiritual haze, set your speaker on some higher spiritual plane (because he sees angels), cater to the upper crust, and then when the timing is just right, have them open their wallets.
I have been part of many many many fundrasing stunts, and sincere spiritual giving. I DO know the difference.
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I have never known of a pentecostal service or event that has had that much planning and forthought put into it.