11-06-2007, 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by LadyRev
And how about we put this "ELDER" stuff to rest once and for all shall we?
ELDERS are both MALE and FEMALE according to scripture.
1Ti 5:1 Rebuke not an elder, but intreat him as a father; and the younger men as brethren;
1Ti 5:2 The elder women as mothers; the younger as sisters, with all purity.
1Ti 5:17 Let the elders that rule well be counted worthy of double honour, especially they who labour in the word and doctrine.
1Ti 5:19 Against an elder receive not an accusation, but before two or three witnesses.
Strong's Number: 4245
Original Word Word Origin
presbuvtero comparative of presbus (elderly)
Transliterated Word
Presbuteros 6:651,931
Phonetic Spelling Parts of Speech
pres-boo'-ter-os Adjective
Definition
elder, of age,
the elder of two people advanced in life, an elder, a senior
forefathers a term of rank or office
among the Jews
members of the great council or Sanhedrin (because in early times the rulers of the people, judges, etc., were selected from elderly men) of those who in separate cities managed public affairs and administered justice among the Christians, those who presided over the assemblies (or churches) The NT uses the term bishop, elders, and presbyters interchangeably the twenty four members of the heavenly Sanhedrin or court seated on thrones around the throne of God
King James Word Usage - Total: 67
elder 64, old man 1, eldest 1, elder woman 1
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You can NOT prove that those that "labour in the word and doctrine" were only male.
You can't pick and choose parts of the definition and say "Oh well the women were just "old women" while the men were the ones holding office". You have no scriptural support for your picking and choosing.
Scriptural support - what a novel idea!
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This is the same mindset that advocates same sex marriage and homosexuals in clergy, is it not?
It was Adam AND Eve, not Adam OR Eve.
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