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Old 09-20-2007, 04:20 PM
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It has everything to do with how they were raised. If you have 20 men in your church who don't work, you need to look at mom and dad. These men are a product of their environment. I have a 15 year boy who took his first job this summer. The contractor he worked for loved him - Thought he had the best attitude and work ethics he had ever seen in a teenager. The contractor readily acknowledged that he (my son) is who he is because of the disciplined, hard-working mom and dad that my son has!

Mom and dad had more to do with the end results in these 20 men than we would want to admit.

I tell woman who complain about how men act that if they want men to act differently, they have to start raising boys differently!!

Individual counseling with a passion to see a difference in each of the lives so these 20 men would have gone a lot further with better results. I would much rather have had the occasion to talk and cousel with each of the individuals individually than to openly rebuke them all at once.

You never know, God might be trying to teach you something about this lazy untoward generation in which you are trying to build churches out of.

And, bythe way, I don't like laziness in anyone. Some of the hardest working people I know are my my wife, her mother, my mother, my grandmothers. The men work equally as as hard.
I don't have twenty men who don't work, I had a group of twenty-somethings. I was referring to their age.

But let's make a deal, you pastor your group, and I'll pastor the ones God allows me to in the way He wants me to.

His Word says that those who don't provide are worse than unbelievers. The church body needs to know I won't tolerate that nonsense.

Get a job! I have no sympathy for someone who can work, but won't.
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