Are The 70.Wks Of Daniel Fulfilled ?

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Originally Posted by PaPaDon

I have lived long enough to learn that it is often the "simple" things which prove to be the most "complicated" to those who believe themselves to already "know it all."

You said more than you realize right there.

I have also lived long enough to learn that whenever we pause and take a careful, prayerful "second look" at those things which we have become so convinced that we are absolutely right about, that we generally discover that we were wrong.

On target again!

This has been my experience, especially when it comes to the many esoteric and secretive aspects of the many great and wondrous "mysteries of God," of which the particular passages I've addressed are an integral part.

The particular passage is no mystery, unless one ha sto mystify it in order for it to fit into one's paradigm, brother.

Yes, the phrase "tasting death" means precisely that, nothing more and certainly nothing less. However, our Lord did NOT assert that those to whom His remarks were directed would NEVER "taste" death, ONLY that such "tasting" of death would NOT transpire UNTIL some later point in time.

Exactly. And Matt 21:40 says that the Lord would "come" and wreak vengeance on those who abused his "vineyard", all the while the pharisees knew he was speaking of them.

Mat 21:40-41 KJV When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen? (41) They say unto him, He will miserably destroy those wicked men, and will let out his vineyard unto other husbandmen, which shall render him the fruits in their seasons.

Mat 21:45 KJV And when the chief priests and Pharisees had heard his parables, they perceived that he spake of them.

And, sure enough, while some of those people were still living, before they tasted death, 40 years later judgment came.

That, my friend, is the WHOLE essence of His statement. You may assert otherwise, and that is certainly your privilege, however, for me, taking His words at their "face value," then the small word "UNTIL" takes on quite a significant degree of meaning, and one which I would highly recommend that you expend some time in prayerfully examining.

Oh, yes indeed, brother. I have kept the simple words intact and did not mystify them, as though there was some sort of "reprieve of death" rather than a simple straight-forward thought that "some" of the preople would not physically die before the Lord would "come".

And, NO, I am not "adding" to the Word, as you imply.

Sorry, but you did. You put some mystical "repreive of death" into the fray, which demands they WOULD physically die but yet not be said to have "tasted death", which mars the plain reading.

That part of your statement represents your opinion, although you fail to make that fact plain. It is certainly not mine!

Sorry if you cannot accept it, but this is the plainest view to take on the scripture, and I have no vendetta against you, personally. Please do nto make it personal.

Perhaps I should also state that, being fully aware of your end-time prophetic opinions, I assure you that your response was not unexpected.

Of course! When the plain reading of a statement is violated by a mystical thought of "reprieve of death:" although a physical death still occurs, something needs to be said.

All this futuristic thinking has so permeated people's minds, sort of like the trinity teaching, that people do not stop to think where it came from. Upon close inspection of the scritpures, the greatest violation that is really so plain to see through, if one looks carefully in scripture, is the idea of a millennium. No apostle ever proposed it. The Lord never proposed it. the only "evidence" anyone ever found for it is Rev 20, and this is in a Book that is full os imagery!

Take care.