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Old 09-08-2007, 03:08 PM
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No, it was your question. It's like me asking you why you believe in three gods knowing that you don't. You said "Oneness say Jesus is the Father" then you said the converse of that is, "is the Father the Son?".

You say you used to be Oneness, then you should know that OPs do NOT equate Father with Son.

So then your question might be more along the lines of explaining that.

From my perspective when OPs say "Jesus is the Father" they mean the "person" who is the Son is also the person that is the Father. The DISTINTION that exists between Father and Son is not one of Hypostasis, but rather of nature and existentially. HOW the Son exists is different than the Father because of the Human nature. HOW the Son thinks is different because of the human nature (mind, will, psyche)

In other words they would say Jesus (the person) is both Father and Son in two distinct modes of being or manifestations or forms or whatever term one uses.

When they say "Jesus is the Father" they are NOT saying "The son is the Father"...and as I said you were once oneness so you should know that (in fact from all the dialog at CARM and other places you should know that)...

So the question is a little confusing and perhaps needs to be rephrased that's all.
The question was written in the simplest way possible.

Here is the question again.. pay close attention to what I asked:

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According to the Oneness doctrine Jesus is the Father. Is this true in reverse? Is the Father also the Son?
Please noticed that I worded it....according to the Oneness doctrine Jesus is the Father.

Jesus is the Son of God. Do you agree or disagree?

If Jesus is the Son, and you also claim that He is the Father, then is the Father the Son? Very simple and straight forward question.
 

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