UPCI's Randy Hollis Throws Down the Gauntlet: The Emancipation of Isaac

[Charlie Brown]

Originally Posted by Charlie Brown

TB,

2Ti 3:16 All scripture [is] given by inspiration of God, and [is] profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
2Ti 3:17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.


Are you telling me that the preacher cannot by scripture declare sound doctrine, reprove sin, correct false ways, and instruct in right living??

What are preachers for? What is the Word of God for??.


As to showing you the application of LOVE, it is simple. If you LOVE God, you will keep his commandments. If you LOVE your neighbor, you will treat him as you would be treated.

Originally Posted by tbpew

Charlie Brown,
God has provided guides that edify the assembly from experience, wisdom, and as examples of a life the demonstrates the witness of ITim 3 and Titus 1.

If the law, or rules, or applications, could make a man righteous, Christ died in vain.

It's all about the transforming power of the Holy Spirit to cause the soul of a man to deny carnal-mindedness and serve spiritual-mindedness.

If you think conduct can be constrained, fine. Maybe, just maybe it can. But all the changed conduct in the world won't change the thoughts of that man who looks upon a woman with lust in his heart. So along comes a preacher with specific rules and applications, at best these kind of things only conceal the matter from those who look on the outward, nothing changes in the heart, the appetite, the desire.

I need the Spirit to lead me, teach me, and change me concerning all truth that bears witness within my inner man.

Others will put their trust in a man to lead them.

It's all about individuals making choices based in the desires that are at work within them.

Wouldn't it be great, if the primary purpose of those gifting ministeries that God has provided his church, actually approach their calling as a call to bear witness, to share the truth of the principles they have received from the Word, and then let each anointed member of God's body decide what they will follow.

If people follow a man, they are trusting a man.
If people follow the Spirit, they have put their trust in God.

TB,

From the very beginning of the bible, all the way to the end God set up boundaries. He separated darkness from light, day from night, and later through the Law defined sin, separating good from evil. All through the new Testament Jesus and the writers of the bible but boundaries (application) for living righteous. To come in here and say that we should only preach principles, and leave the rest up to God would mean that one is not preaching the whole council of God. Did Paul shy away from telling folks that adulterers would have their part in the lake of fire? What about Liars? I believe we MUST teach the whys, but there are sometimes that you just gotta call a spade a spade.

Maybe I am misunderstanding you, but what it seems I am reading in your posts is that preachers should no longer preach with clarity the Word of God, but preach only in parables, giving principles only. Is this what you mean, or am I reading something that is not there into your posts?