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Originally Posted by crakjak
Bro. Benincasa,
As we both know Matt. 25:46 is the proof text of endless punishment:
"These shall go away into everlasting punishment, and the righteous into life eternal."
If we review the context it sheds doubt on this being endless punishment, since the recipients only stated failure is not considering the poor.
If we let scripture interpret scripture we recognize that God's punishments are REMEDIAL, all of God's punishments are of our Heavenly Father, therefore must be adapted to the improvement of His children.
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CJ, the punishments that God performs upon His creation are two fold, the first is to the Wicked and that is eternal and everlasting, which means that they cannot be redeemed from that punishment once it has been handed out.
Henceforth the eternal, and everlasting punishment. The second is correction and chastisement to those God loves. The Proverbs explain how God's punishments work and we see a good example of this in the book of Daniel.
Dan 3:19-23
"Then was Nebuchadnezzar full of fury, and the form of his visage was changed against Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego: therefore he spake, and commanded that they should heat the furnace one seven times more than it was wont to be heated. And he commanded the most mighty men that were in his army to bind Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, and to cast them into the burning fiery furnace. Then these men were bound in their coats, their hosen, and their hats, and their other garments, and were cast into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. Therefore because the king's commandment was urgent, and the furnace exceeding hot, the flame of THE FIRE SLEW THOSE MEN that took up Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego. And these three men, Shadrach, Meshach, and Abednego, fell down bound into the midst of the burning fiery furnace. Then Nebuchadnezzar the king was astonied, and rose up in haste, and spake, and said unto his counsellors, Did not we cast three men bound into the midst of the fire? They answered and said unto the king, True, O king. He answered and said, Lo, I see four men loose, walking in the midst of the fire, and THEY HAVE NO HURT; and the form of the fourth is like the Son of God.
The wicked are destroyed but the righteous are protected. The Egyptians are drowned in the Red Sea but the saints of God pass through the baptism with safety.
Pro 1:22-33
"How long, ye simple ones, will ye love simplicity? and the scorners delight in their scorning, and fools hate knowledge? Turn you at my reproof: behold, I will pour out my spirit unto you, I will make known my words unto you. Because I have called, and ye refused; I have stretched out my hand, and no man regarded; But ye have set at nought all my counsel, and would none of my reproof: I also will laugh at your calamity; I will mock when your fear. When your fear cometh as desolation, and your DESTRUCTION cometh as a whirlwind; when distress and anguish cometh upon you. Then shall they call upon me, but I will NOT answer; they shall seek me early, but they shall NOT find me: For that they hated knowledge, and did not choose the fear of the LORD: They would none of my counsel: they despised all my reproof. Therefore shall they eat of the fruit of their own way, and be filled with their own devices. For the turning away of the simple shall SLAY them, and the prosperity of fools shall DESTROY them. BUT whoso hearkeneth unto me shall DWELL SAFELY, and shall be QUIET from fear of evil."
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Originally Posted by crakjak
Hebrews 12:5-11 "My son, despise not the chastening of the Lord nor faint when thou art rebuked of Him: for whom the Lord loveth He chasteneth, and scourgeth ever son whom He receiveth." And then John 3:16: "For God so loved the world...."
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Excuse me, but at first glance this above quote may sound correct but in the light of proper Biblical hermeneutics we can see that there are two distinct groups, one who are corrected through punishments and the others who are eternally punished without remedy.
In Jesus Name
Brother Benincasa
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