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Old 05-11-2024, 08:14 PM
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Re: Mark of the Beast may be only 2 1/2 years away

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I don't believe he is.
Are there any passages of Scripture speaking of the dead being judged that are NOT referring to the destruction of Jerusalem?

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Today we are not judged by God if we live by faith, there is no other judgment coming.
What about this? Did this occur in 70 AD?
2 Corinthians 5:10-11 KJV
For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ; that every one may receive the things done in his body, according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad. [11] Knowing therefore the terror of the Lord, we persuade men; but we are made manifest unto God; and I trust also are made manifest in your consciences.
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2Ti_4:8.. Now there is laid up for me the crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous Judge, shall give me at that Day; and not to me only, but also to all those who love His appearing.

Where is the judgment to those who look for his appearing? As Paul is speaking of the end of his life.
Where does it say he is "speaking of the end of his life"? He begins by saying this:

2 Timothy 4:1 KJV
I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

He then says this:

2 Timothy 4:8 KJV
Henceforth there is laid up for me a crown of righteousness, which the Lord, the righteous judge, shall give me at that day: and not to me only, but unto all them also that love his appearing.


Clearly, the "day" he is speaking of is the day of the Lord's appearing (verse 1) and not the day of his own death. So he wasn't speaking of the end of his life in the sense of the day of his death. Maybe in the sense of "the final disposition of his life" which wouldn't say anything at all about any particular time.

In any event, it seems you are saying that after 70 AD there is no judgment for anyone. Which means sinners and unbelievers will never be judged (neither will saints), which means you have no idea what the fate of any unbelievers is since AD 70, and I would venture to say that - simply following your logic of there being NO judgment - you would also have no idea what the fate of the saints is (since AD 70). You might have an opinion or a belief, but certainly not a Scripturally based faith because faith comes by hearing and hearing comes by the Word of God, and you have no Word of God for any judgment of anyone after AD 70.

Which basically means what is the point of evangelism?

Also, if judgment has been over and done with, and men are no longer accountable for their deeds, that is essentially an overthrow of the very kingdom of God, because it means there has been an overthrow of the law or rule of God. Everything has been "decriminalized" and therefore there is no law, no moral law of God, no moral law to which men are held to account.

You essentially are denying a belief in any "future state of reward or punishment" (which by the way would have made you ineligible for public office in many states prior to the civil war, just throwing that out there.)
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