Why didn't the Latter Day Prophets see this?

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Originally Posted by Esaias

So the pastor tore up the pulpit, and they rebuilt it for the next service? Or was the clip about the new song before the pulpit tear-up?

I watched the two clips, didn't see any context for the pulpit tearing, but I would say maybe it needed to be done. They can get rid of the platform next, sell the cathedral, disband the 501c3, and get closer to the Bible.

As for the song clip, I've seen that kind of thing plenty of times. It's usually needed. One time a church we visited (the church was our pastor's home church) started the song service after the pre-service prayer. Halfway through the first song (or second? Can't recall) the pastor stopped the music and told the church they weren't ready to offer worship because they hadn't really prayed, just went through the motions. Called everybody back to prayer. Prayer service lasted about an hour and half, my daughter got the Holy Ghost, rest of the service went till around midnight, one gigantic worship-slash-alter call service with occasional preaching.

So there's that.

Regarding the song service incident, it depends a lot how the exhortation comes out. Is the leader encouraging, or rebuking? if rebuking, on what ground? is the leader pushing saints around like servants or just trying to facilitate the activity? I don't mind the encouragement as in "let us praise the Lord with ...", nor I mind the rebuke when we just need to get our acts together because it is obvious, nor I mind the leader asking the saints to move to facilitate some activity.

Regarding the pulpit being teared apart, ... he believed there were demons behind it. Beside the fact that that's like animism, pulpits are just tools. People don't make idols of them since, to begin with, pulpits do not provide for anything, nor anybody believes they do. The idol is the overglorification of preachers, and in particular pastors, considered by some saints like the representation of the Lord on earth, the only source of wisdom and direction, the only true spokeman of God. So, because that's the case, there is also jealousy, because preachers want that glory.
People just call that "the pulpit", just to mean, "what it is preached", or "the preaching ministry", or "the pastor's ministry", etc... So, in reality, ranting against "the pulpit" is ranting against the admiration the saints have for preachers, to the point of cult to personality. The ranting it is probably motivated by jealousy. This pastor not only destroyed a church asset but also shows his ignorance to what the true systematic problem is.