What's your view on Hell?

[Esaias]

Originally Posted by Nicodemus1968

So does that mean, are we separated from the Lord?

Who said that? Why would you think that?

Also, what do you do with this verse?

Mark 12:27
[27]He is not the God of the dead, but the God of the living: ye therefore do greatly err.

I distinctly remember that passage being discussed already. Are you just skimming through the thread?

"Now let's think a moment about the Lord's reply to the Sadducees. He says God is the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. He then says God is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for all live unto Him.

How does this have anything to do with resurrection?????

A believer in a naturally immortal conscious soul existing after death would take the passage to mean that they are alive right now, they really aren't dead, they are off in the afterlife still carrying on in some fashion. But Jesus specifically chose THAT passage and THAT logical assertion to PROVE RESURRECTION FROM THE DEAD. If Jesus believed as you do then how would that passage ever be taken to be a proof text for a future resurrection? How would it ever come to mind as a proof text for a future resurrection?

Yet it makes PERFECT SENSE from the viewpoint of conditional immortality and "soul sleep". The fact that He is God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, and is not the God of the dead but of the living, requires a resurrection! Abraham etc must come to life, and must become immortal, otherwise God is in fact the God of the dead, and not of the living. The text, as a proof of the RESURRECTION, only really makes sense from the point of view of "soul sleep" and conditional immortality. Someone who believed in the immortal conscious soul after death would simply not even conceive of using that passage and that logical premise ("not God of the dead"). In THEIR mind those two things would simply mean Abraham is floating around in heaven or somewhere, alive and well just non physical, RIGHT NOW. But Jesus saw it as a proof of the resurrection." Quoted from ---> http://www.apostolicfriendsforum.com...&postcount=287

All this talk about death, what about being dead as a individual in sin?

Maybe start a thread on that topic? This thread is about hell and the final judgment.

If I’m understanding correctly, your understanding is, we’re raised to new life through salvation in Jesus, we’re able to live a holy overcoming life on this earth walking in the newness of life. Then when die, we’re separated from the lord and we’re just in the ground waiting for some future court day in the heavens.

I'd say you are not understanding correctly.