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Old 01-29-2021, 04:23 PM
Tithesmeister Tithesmeister is offline
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Re: Pentematic

I agree with Esaias here.

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I would say about 95% of oneness pentecostals equate holiness with "standards". They seem to have no concept of the actual depth of entire sanctification.

Example 1: two people in church. One "struggles with" standards. Their salvation is always in question and they are generally considered backslidden. The other "struggles with" lust/bitterness/doubt/fill-in-the-blank but if they look the part they are constantly assured they are doing okay and "it's just part of the Christian battle" etc.

Example 2: If you say "Holiness is required to make it to heaven" all oneness pentecostals within earshot will immediately assume you are talking about "standards" and will start arguing about hair length, dresses, sleeve length, video, makeup, jewelry, etc. They will not assume you are talking about heart purity, faith, dedication to God, or submission of every area of life to obedience to the Word/Law of God. Such things have to first be pointed out and then the usual disclaimers are put forward "Oh, of course, yes those things are important".

Example 3: This thread.
And Brother Michael here . . .

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple View Post
Nails it
I probably should leave it there . . .


BUT . . .

Then it seems someone always has to say this, (the portion in bold).


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Originally Posted by Bro Flame View Post
Holiness is an inward and outward experience. Once you allow God to clean up the inside, you won't have an issue with following suit outwardly.

I'd agree that most Apostolics automatically think of "standards" as limitations and restrictions on outward attire and conduct. I'm glad I'm in a church where it's preached that inner and outer holiness are equally important to God. Now, I'm not saying that all of us have everything the way God wants it, but it isn't because it's not preached from the platform.

I have heard it many times from preachers. And obviously Brother Flame has too. But I don’t think Flame truly believes it. And I am sure those who preach it don’t believe it. They are hypocrites for saying it.

Because if they truly believed it, they wouldn’t preach the clothes line at all. They would preach inward holiness ONLY.

Because they would believe that preaching standards as we know them was a complete waste of time. They could simply look at the outside and perceive what ones inside holiness is. But, there is this . . .

1Sam.16

[7] But the LORD said unto Samuel, Look not on his countenance, or on the height of his stature; because I have refused him: for the LORD seeth not as man seeth; for man looketh on the outward appearance, but the LORD looketh on the heart.

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