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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
I rarely ever meet a "YAHIST" or a "sacred namer". The ones I have ran across over the years have leaned toward Twinity or Arian.
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All the ones I know are One God. But more than Theology is linguistics as that pet peeve.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
In years past you didnt hear much about Oneness becoming Trins. It was always the other way around. For a number of years everyone who went through my entire presentation of Oneness accepted it.
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You are talking about lay people, not harden Trinitarian scholars or Trinitarian college trained ministers. Like when you hear about ex-Mormons converting, or ex-Catholics they are usually the rank and file. Not Michael Dimond, or Scott Hahn. It's rare to get 40 wives of Osama Bin Laden to convert fresh out of the cave. Mostly conversions are from your normal people who (while they may attend a Three god church) they aren't Greek scholars.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Things have really changed. I have ran into a number of Oneness who now mock it. For years I had no real interest in what other languages said. I still have very little.
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I have ran into ex-Oneness, pretty much I have run into ex- everything. People are people and get in and out of things for all sorts of reasons. Nothing new.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
Nonetheless it got more and more where you cannot do a study without someone trying to throw Greek into the mix or Hebrew for that matter. It seems people are very impressed by that and are quick to accept whatever the person says. I have seen it to often.
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Like I previously posted, people who sperw Greek, Hebrew, Aramaic, or Wakandian aren't scholars. Look at our own Scott Pitta, he can't get the job done because of a can of paint, sticky shelves, and a pile of dusty termite eaten books. You speak English? You were born hearing English, you came into Church most likely with a KJV, or a Good News Bible. All English, all understandable.
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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple
In my own teaching or contending sessions I have a very small perimeter of these words that are nonetheless effective to some. A Greek fellow contacted me a few years ago and told me he accepted Oneness after hearing me teach on Mark 12:29 that one actually meant one. He had been a Trin basically because everyone else was.
I do use the Concordance or Interlinear some, generally I think the KJV translators probably knew the Greek as good as most today. There are very few places in it where I think translation makes a difference. It seems to me the larger battle is over text sources.
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Mike, I am in a place, where Spanish, French, and other languages are spoken. I make them all read from their own language Bibles. While it may be interesting to go into the Greek, the Spanish, and French have no need for that. Because in their language it says the exact same thing. But it is context of the chapters, and also the wholeness of the entire Bible. Noty just twisting over one word in Greek, which neither one has a clue to its etymology.
If you are dealing with sincere truth seekers, all they need is their birth language. Seriously.