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Old 04-23-2019, 10:10 AM
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Re: Adultery vs Fornication

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It is clear that Paul's instructions in I Corinthians 7 are for believers, how they were to conduct themselves post-conversion. Had remarried new converts been required to break up their homes and marriages, the Apostles would have made that crystal clear. They did not.


Esaias thinks I am somehow too emotionally involved to adequately discuss this matter. However, it has been my observation over the years that many who promote the radical views like those espoused by the author of this thread are divorced people who cannot get over the one they lost and thus impose a harsh sentence on themselves in order to still feel married to the one who left them. It is a type of denial that the marriage is over.

I've also seen others in leadership who push this bondage, trying to keep divorced people in leg irons. But when their daughter is abandoned by their spouse, the leader's doctrine suddenly changes.



7:1Pail opinion about stay single 1 Now concerning the things whereof ye wrote unto me: It is good for a man not to touch a woman.

2 -6 Paul's opinion about how to avoid fornication if you can not stay single 2 Nevertheless, to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband.
3 Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband.
4 The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife.
5 Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.
6 But I speak this by permission, and not of commandment.


7-9 about un-married and widows For I would that all men were even as I myself. But every man hath his proper gift of God, one after this manner, and another after that.
8 I say therefore to the unmarried and widows, It is good for them if they abide even as I.
9 But if they cannot contain, let them marry: for it is better to marry than to burn.


10-11 Lord`s instructions about Divorce and 2nd Marriage (He does not permit) 10 And unto the married I command, yet not I, but the Lord, Let not the wife depart from her husband:

12-24 again Paul`s opinion about a Christian that his/her matte is not converted 12 But to the rest speak I, not the Lord: If any brother hath a wife that believeth not, and she be pleased to dwell with him, let him not put her away.
13 And the woman which hath an husband that believeth not, and if he be pleased to dwell with her, let her not leave him.
14 For the unbelieving husband is sanctified by the wife, and the unbelieving wife is sanctified by the husband: else were your children unclean; but now are they holy.
15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace.1
16 For what knowest thou, O wife, whether thou shalt save thy husband? or how knowest thou, O man, whether thou shalt save thy wife?2
17 But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
18 Is any man called being circumcised? let him not become uncircumcised. Is any called in uncircumcision? let him not be circumcised.
19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God.
20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.
21 Art thou called being a servant? care not for it: but if thou mayest be made free, use it rather.
22 For he that is called in the Lord, being a servant, is the Lord's freeman: likewise also he that is called, being free, is Christ's servant.3
23 Ye are bought with a price; be not ye the servants of men.
24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.


25-38 Instructions about Virgins and unmarried that are engaged
25 Now concerning virgins I have no commandment of the Lord: yet I give my judgment, as one that hath obtained mercy of the Lord to be faithful.
26 I suppose therefore that this is good for the present distress, I say, that it is good for a man so to be.4
27 Art thou bound unto a wife? seek not to be loosed. Art thou loosed from a wife? seek not a wife.
28 But and if thou marry, thou hast not sinned; and if a virgin marry, she hath not sinned. Nevertheless such shall have trouble in the flesh: but I spare you.
29 But this I say, brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that both they that have wives be as though they had none;
30 And they that weep, as though they wept not; and they that rejoice, as though they rejoiced not; and they that buy, as though they possessed not;
31 And they that use this world, as not abusing it: for the fashion of this world passeth away.
32 But I would have you without carefulness. He that is unmarried careth for the things that belong to the Lord, how he may please the Lord:
33 But he that is married careth for the things that are of the world, how he may please his wife.
34 There is difference also between a wife and a virgin. The unmarried woman careth for the things of the Lord, that she may be holy both in body and in spirit: but she that is married careth for the things of the world, how she may please her husband.
35 And this I speak for your own profit; not that I may cast a snare upon you, but for that which is comely, and that ye may attend upon the Lord without distraction.
36 But if any man think that he behaveth himself uncomely toward his virgin, if she pass the flower of her age, and need so require, let him do what he will, he sinneth not: let them marry.
37 Nevertheless he that standeth stedfast in his heart, having no necessity, but hath power over his own will, and hath so decreed in his heart that he will keep his virgin, doeth well.
38 So then he that giveth her in marriage doeth well; but he that giveth her not in marriage doeth better.


39-40 Lord`s command about widows .(they are banned to their husbands until the man dies.)39 The wife is bound by the law as long as her husband liveth; but if her husband be dead, she is at liberty to be married to whom she will; only in the Lord.
40 But she is happier if she so abide, after my judgment: and I think also that I have the Spirit of God.


-You can stay un-married, but if you can not then better to marry in order to avoid fornication
-For the married Christian divorce is not permitted, but if for any reason separate ,then stay an-married or go back to your wife
-If a matte dont want to fallow Christ ,is NOT an excuse to leave him, but if they want to leave you dont have any sin (otherwise Jesus said that "everyone who puts away his wife is responsible for her adultery)
-Virgins who are engaged are to dont brake it and Christians who are not engaged it is better if they stay singles ,(according to Paul) but if they want to marry is not a sin.
-Widows also is better to sstay singles but if they marry is not a sin (the only cause for 2nd marriage is DEATH) 3 So then if, while her husband liveth, she be married to another man, she shall be called an adulteress: but if her husband be dead, she is free from that law; so that she is no adulteress, though she be married to another man.
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