Do we have to pay tithes?

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Originally Posted by 1ofthechosen

Just type tenth in a Concordance it is shown over 63 times. There is something with the number and God has made it clear "the tenth shall be holy unto the Lord."


Again, my comment went right over your head. That tenth that you mentioned was not commanded to anyone but to those it was addressed to. This is your problem with not understanding something in context. Your whole house of cards stands or falls on this "holy unto me" comment. Even then you zero in on that phrase when it comes to tithes but ignore its use everywhere else. I'm sorry, but Riggen is just as wrong in abusing hermeneutical laws that way. He needs to repent.

I mean I was looking at different scriptures just look at Isaiah 6:11-13 "Then said I, Lord, how long? And he answered, Until the cities be wasted without inhabitant, and the houses without man, and the land be utterly desolate, [12] And the Lord have removed men far away, and there be a great forsaking in the midst of the land. [13] But yet in it shall be a tenth, and it shall return, and shall be eaten: as a teil tree, and as an oak, whose substance is in them, when they cast their leaves: so the holy seed shall be the substance thereof."

Even like in Revelations 11:13 "And the same hour was there a great earthquake, and the tenth part of the city fell, and in the earthquake were slain of men seven thousand: and the remnant were affrighted, and gave glory to the God of heaven."


So because of all this you think God is obsessed with a tenth? Amazing. You build doctrine for giving from all of this?

There is many more and I know these weren't about tithes but tithes does mean tenth,so what are the Spiritual ramifications of the tenth?

No.

I want to say this I believe not paying your tithe sending you to hell is extreme. I can see it in the light of scripture, but at the same time I think that's extreme. I mean I cant speak for God, but I would say that I believe there would be more teaching of it, if it was a situation like that. But I do believe there is a Spiritual Principal with the tenth, that we shouldn't miss.

You are reading something into it.


Not because it will send us to hell, thinking like that is counterproductive. But more because we could miss out on a principal God was trying to share with us. One that is not just revealed to everyone. After studying this the way I have because of this, I feel stronger then ever about it. I really feel there is something there.

Please hear me I've been coming off wrong on you guys. I think I have set myself up as a opposition, and that cant work. Please forgive me all you guys I apologise.

Interpret the Scriptures knowing that the goal in interpretation is not to discover hidden, secret truths, or to be unique in your interpretation.

God has given us His Word in order to reveal Himself.
– It is not a book of dark mysteries, and riddles, it is a book of self disclosure.
– He is not a God of confusion, but of clarity.
– He has not spoken in order to conceal, but to be understood and known.
Therefore, when we come to His Word we need to realize that it is the plain meaning of the text that we are seeking to understand.

We need not look for hidden, esoteric, cryptic truths. God has preserved His Word to speak to the multitudes of ordinary people that they might be saved. So, don’t pass up the obvious and natural meaning of a text looking for something “unique” and “deep.”

Many of the times someone has excitedly shared with me something really “unique” and “deep” that they discovered in the Bible, something they’ve never heard any teacher share, they have usually been wrong.

It is tempting as you study the Scriptures to discover things that no one else has ever seen before.

But if you’re discovering things like that, you can almost bet that you are making the Scriptures to say things that were never intended by the original authors.