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Old 09-15-2017, 07:49 AM
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Re: The Sabbath Day, Should You Keep or not Keep?

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I find it strange that you seem to be using Bible verses to prove that one doesn't need the Bible if they "have Jesus inside."
That isn't the point. The Bible truly helps educate us on the ways of God, the early church, and doctrine.

But try to keep in mind, the NT church didn't have a NT. Neither did they run around obeying the Torah as the Jews did.

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And that is what your line of thinking boils down. "Dusty old scrolls"? Whether you realize it or not, you have essentially severed yourself from the Word.
It's only a figure of speech, Paul would have said:
Romans 7:6
But now we are delivered from the law, that being dead wherein we were held; that we should serve in newness of spirit, and not in the oldness of the letter.
So you can call me a legalist all you want, if that's what you think. I believe the Bible is the SOLE RULE FOR FAITH AND PRACTICE.
Not everything in the Bible is for us to practice literally. I mean, I highly doubt you sacrifice animals for atonement.

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Those "dusty old scrolls" are the only reason you even know about a guy named Jesus. I'll follow the Bible, and you follow your inward perceptions and hunches. I know the Bible is Truth, it IS reality, and a person's inward perceptions, hunches, feelings, impulses, whatever, are to be measured against the WORD.
I'm wondering, as the church was advancing into the thick non-Jewish Gentiles of ancient Europe prior to the compiling of the NT... they didn't mandate that those Gentiles study Torah. They testified of Christ, and no doubt offered some explanatory teaching, but the ancient Gentile Christians of Gaul didn't have a Torah scroll front and center in their gatherings.

The Scriptures are indispensable. But you do realize that if all our Bibles were confiscated, we indeed would live according to the Spirit. I've learned that the Spirit never contradicts Scripture. However, at times, the Spirit does challenge our limited human understandings of it.

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To the law and to the testimony, if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. (Isaiah 8:20)
Um... This was written by the prophet Isaiah, who lived under the Law. If Isaiah were alive today, he'd want to know why you cling to the Law when so much more is available for you?
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