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Old 08-08-2017, 07:10 PM
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Re: The Sabbath Day, Should You Keep or not Keep?

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The law was not a means to get man to love God.
Yes it was. END in the next verse means GOAL.

1 Timothy 1:5 KJV Now the end of the commandment is charity out of a pure heart, and of a good conscience, and of faith unfeigned:
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The commandments of God are the Divinely revealed standard of what is right and wrong, good and bad. But the law COVENANT could not produce people who followed right and eschewed wrong, did good and avoided bad. It could not do that because of the weakness of our flesh (the problem is us, not God's law).
No one said the problem was law, but at the same time law contained elements that were rude versions of the reality and fullness of what Grace does in the Spirit.

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So God sent Christ who condemned sin in the flesh and died on a cross and rose again, to accomplish what the law could not do - produce righteousness in people's hearts and lives. It does this through the sanctifying Spirit regenerating and indwelling us. The result is that the righteousness of the law is fulfilled in those who walk in the Spirit of Christ.
The righteousness of the law is not necessarily the conclusion law sought to produce through the means law offered. It is simply the state of righteousness in and of itself. And that same righteousness is achieved apart from sabbath, apart from law and apart from foreshadowing ritual.

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Romans 4:13-15

13 (For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
14 For when the Gentiles, which have not the law, do by nature the things contained in the law, these, having not the law, are a law unto themselves:
15 Which shew the work of the law written in their hearts, their conscience also bearing witness, and their thoughts the mean while accusing or else excusing one another
The contextual use of law in that passage is saying that Jews who were under the time of law-keeping had to be law-keepers throughout their lives. And if they failed to do so, merely possessing the Law as God's people did not excuse them from the penalty of being a law-breaker. To demonstrate that, Paul stated that non-Israelite people who never had law but did the righteous things law demanded were in states of what God desired in Israel, and more righteous than Israelites who failed to keep law.

This says nothing about what the Spirit of God moves one to physically do or not do.

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Romans 8:2-4
2 For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death.
3 For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:
4 That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
1 John 5:3
3 For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous.
These commandments are not the ten commandments, despite the many times law-keepers suggested they are.
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