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The definition must fit the context of the passage.
Mat 16:18 And I say also unto thee, That thou art Peter, and upon this rock I will build my church; and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
Mat 16:19 And I will give unto thee the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.
Was Christ just speaking of the church which would first be established in Jerusalem? So is I am in the Jerusalem church I am not part of the church in Corinth? There for I better not take the letters to Corinth as letters written to me as they are a separate body and hence forth not to me. |
Here you have committed the fallacy of non sequitur.
The church is an actual gathering of called out regenerate people. The letters to one church apply to every other church insofar as the conditions are the same. Thus, Paul says:
But as God hath distributed to every man, as the Lord hath called every one, so let him walk. And so ordain I in all churches.
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1 Corinthians 7:17 KJV)
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Common guys we know that does not work. While the body is composed of individual bodies, we are all part of the greater Body of Christ.
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Once again you are making statement that are not found in the Bible and which do not comport with the statements that are in the Bible. Here is the text you misquoted:
For as the body is one, and hath many members, and all the members of that one body, being many, are one body: so also is Christ. For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. For the body is not one member, but many. If the foot shall say, Because I am not the hand, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? And if the ear shall say, Because I am not the eye, I am not of the body; is it therefore not of the body? If the whole body were an eye, where were the hearing? If the whole were hearing, where were the smelling? But now hath God set the members every one of them in the body, as it hath pleased him. And if they were all one member, where were the body? But now are they many members, yet but one body. And the eye cannot say unto the hand, I have no need of thee: nor again the head to the feet, I have no need of you. Nay, much more those members of the body, which seem to be more feeble, are necessary: And those members of the body, which we think to be less honourable, upon these we bestow more abundant honour; and our uncomely parts have more abundant comeliness. For our comely parts have no need: but God hath tempered the body together, having given more abundant honour to that part which lacked: That there should be no schism in the body; but that the members should have the same care one for another. And whether one member suffer, all the members suffer with it; or one member be honoured, all the members rejoice with it. Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
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1 Corinthians 12:12-27 KJV)
The Body of Christ is not composed of individual bodies, but of individual members. Unless by 'bodies' you meant individual human bodies, of course. But if by 'bodies' you meant ASSEMBLIES, then you are mistaken. The Body of Christ is a local assembly of individual members. The mystical, spiritual Body of Christ does not and cannot exist in any form EXCEPT in the local assembly, just has human essence cannot exist in any form EXCEPT in an individual human being. Yet there is only one 'humanity'.
The ekklesia is by definition a local assembly. You can not be gathered together as an assembly with people who do not actually gather together with you in a relationship.
Please supply the verses which demonstrate or prove a 'universal, invisible church composed of all churches everywhere and composed of members who never gather together with each other'.
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Christ did not tell Peter whatsoever he binds in Jerusalem. He said the earth.
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Which means wherever Peter is on the earth, his bindings would be bound in heaven as well. Is Peter the church?
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