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Old 10-31-2015, 12:11 PM
JoReba JoReba is offline
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The Nonsense About How Xtians View Christ's Love.

Calm down. I wrote "Xtian" because the space for Thread titles is limited.

Luke 14:23, "If a man loves me, he will keep my words, and my Father will love him, and we will come unto him, and make our abode with him."

It requires little searching within The Modern Evangelical Church to hear some statement to the effect, "Jesus Loves Us Unconditionally!" But, the facts of Scripture, right here in Luke 14:23 quoting Jesus' very own Words, show that Jesus' and the Father's love is entirely conditional upon whether or not we first obey Jesus' Words and come to Him.

Old Addled Apostle John must have not said it quite right in 1John 4:19 when he wrote that Jesus "first loved us." Who should you believe? Jesus' Words, or Addled John? Remember, Jesus never said "I Love You" to anyone, not to His Mom, His Siblings, the people He healed, and certainly not to The Pharisees and Saducees. Not The Woman at the Well, not to The Syrophoenician Dog Woman, not to Mary and Martha. Jesus did mention His previous acts of love for the Disciples, in John 13:34, but He never ran around babbling, "Oh! I just love you all so much!! My love is UNCONDITIONAL for you!!" Nope. Not one time.

So, the only resolution to this shocking news for you Special Little Christian Hearts is that God did indeed first love The World as John wrote in 3:16, but only in a generic and general manner. His love for any individual person is entirely conditional, as Jesus clearly stated in Luke 14:23. Try to pray and calm down before you compulsively start tossing out weak little ad hominems. Speak to the issue here like a Real Believer.

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