Universal Salvation

[crakjak]

Originally Posted by mfblume

I am not annihilationist, but I think your reasoning is wrong, too. There are two extremes--- Calvinism and Universal Salvation. Both are at either end of the spectrum, and both are never plainly stated anywhere in scripture if either was true. Hence, a weird situation, if either were true.

God is not defeated by someone's choice. It's up to each of us to choose. It is all a joke if the actuality is that we can choose this day life or death, if in reality neither chose wrong in the end.

I could accept the idea of "freewill" determining a persons final end, if every person had equal opportunity and access to the gospel. However, only the naive embrace the idea the everyone has every opportunity in their physical lives to come to Jesus.

It is very difficult to honestly consider UR thru the lens of the ingrained doctrine of "endless torment", but if you look at scripture from the view of an all knowing God as Creator, seeing the end as the beginning. Then read scripture that supports UR it is by far the most reasonable.

Most endless torment scriptures are hyperbolic language concerning temporal lives. What do we "choose this day"? Joshua was speaking to Israel concerning the very immediate, were they going to continue to go in circles in the desert or would they embrace God as provider and "get over this Jordan". We have heard all our lives of "rightly dividing the word of truth", but what was meant by most was to define the Bible thru the lens of preconceived interpretation.