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Old 01-11-2015, 09:36 AM
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Re: Original Sin

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Originally Posted by mfblume View Post
Something to consider:
1) If physical bodies are for procreation, then why will we be like the angels who do not procreate after we receive immortal bodies in the resurrection?
2) I believe our bodies are for this world. And immortal bodies mean we will rule in this world for ever after the resurrection and pass between the heavenly realm and the earthly realm back and forth.
3) Psa 115:16 KJV The heaven, even the heavens, are the LORD'S: but the earth hath he given to the children of men.
4) We're not meant to dwell in heaven forever.
5) What would have happened if Adam never sinned? He never would have died and gone to heaven!
6) Salvation points toward returning to man what Adam lost in the Garden before he sinned. That includes immortal physical bodies with which to rule this world. Heaven is only for disembodied souls and spirits after death until the resurrection. God put Adam to rule in the earth! THAT IS ULTIMATE KINGDOM truth, I believe.
(1) “Heaven and earth shall pass away…” EVERYTHING about this universe is
temporal, even our bodies. The new bodies that the faithful will receive are [eternal];
therefore, there is no need for procreation.Man is to live through procreation until the
fulfillment of God’s plan.

(2) Our bodies ARE for this world. Immortal bodies mean we will no longer be composed
of the dust of the ground, therefore not bound to the earth.

(3) This refers to this present time AND to our being bound to this earth by our
[temporal] bodies. Note: the earth is not for “the sons of God.

(4) Meaning we will not be eternal? Please qualify

(5) That is purely hypothetical. Sin was allowed because of the disobedient
angels; and not as a reaction, but proactive. God knew Adam would sin;
God knew iniquity would be found in Lucifer.

(6) Remember that all things in creation are temporal, even man’s “lordship”. The
“immortal” bodies you refer to were also temporal, or until Adam ate of the Tree
of Life! Then, and only then, would the ”temporal” bodies have been discarded and
changed to eternal.
I believe there is now a place for those who are to be saved, and
another place for those who have rejected salvation. It is not “heaven” (eternity).
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