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Originally Posted by Pliny
LOL! No wonder you are a muslim. They get whipped and call it a "victory" ROTFL. Just like Hezbollah! LOL
You have demonstrated zero, nada, nothing.
Anyway, you have never demonstrated anyone practiced pedophilia prior to your deity and prophet. You brought up some ancient Rabbi who said it was okay. BTW you failed to document the tractate that it was supposed to come from. I could care less because that does NOT represent the God of the Bible. Tell ya what. Why don't you show us where in the BIBLE God says pedophilia is okay?
All you have tried to do, poorly I might add, is to bring up a false dichotomy by attempting a false moral equivalence. One more time just for you. YOUR deity has made pedophilia specifically okay. Your "holy man" practiced pedophilia and you support and defend this heinous act. Shame on you! Shame on your not so "holy man" and shame on your deity.
Your whole argument is so flawed that even a cave man can discern it. To bad you can't.
When will you repent?
James was right:
(Jas 2:19 KJV) Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.
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Is Jas 2:19 ("queen" JV) the missing verse that defines the sin?
Once again:
Mohammad and Aisha's marriage was arranged when she was 6. It was consummated at 9. They stayed married until he died.
Such practices followed traditions that go back to the beginning of time and were certainly followed long afterwards.
Yes, an
ancient rabbi acknowledged the practice.
Church Jurists acknowledged the practice
In the 12th century, the jurist Gratian, an influential founder of Canon law in medieval Europe, accepted the age of puberty for marriage to be between 12 and 14, but acknowledged consent to be meaningful if the children were older than 7. There were authorities with a claim that consent could take place earlier. Marriage would then be valid as long as neither of the two parties annulled the marital agreement before reaching puberty, or if they had already consummated the marriage. It should be noted that Judges honored marriages based on mutual consent at ages younger than 7, in spite of what Gratian had said; there are recorded marriages of 2 and 3 year olds
Early American colonists acknowledged the practice
The American colonies followed the English tradition, but the law was more of a guide. For example, Mary Hathaway (Virginia, 1689) was only 9 when she was married to William Williams. Sir Edward Coke (England, 17th century) made it clear that "the marriage of girls under 12 was normal, and the age at which a girl who was a wife was eligible for a dower from her husband's estate was 9 even though her husband be only four years old".
You have demonstrated no sin and have won nothing here. My "argument" as you call it is simply a series of written references from various times in history from various authors and stands as written. No change, no way to rewrite it, no way to refute it, certainly not a single word in the bible, leaving you with nothing but insults, comparisons to me to people far away who I have nothing to do with (I'm a Texan dude), and various other rants unaccompanied by nothing but than your opinion and inflated sense of self-righteousness to support them.
I generously offered you the chance to expose this hideous sin by bringing some, any christian writing (minus the bible) and you have declined to do this as well. In over 2000 years of Christian practices to draw from you have come up dry. Nobody wins or loses here. Your beliefs condemn all of history, and you have only succeeded in convincing yourself that you are not only better than me, you are better than any person who has ever lived.
In this, you have experienced the typical christian "victory" and have "vanquished" your "enemy" with a carefully crafted "argument" that makes you feel "good" and defines yourself as a "better person" than anyone else who has ever lived in all of history. Do you to kindly savor this, wallow in it, engulf yourself in it. I crown you as the king of "better man".
NOTE: Pedophilia is what happens in your sunday schools. We were discussing marriage, in this case a "death til us part" marriage and there
IS actually a difference.
You probably don't see that either though. Have a nice day, oh righteous one. Though you cannot rewrite history you are certainly (more than) qualified to write your OWN bible - LOL
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